Finding probability

Algebra Level 2

There are 4 identical balls in a bag, numbered 1, 2, 3 and 4 respectively. Pick one ball out of the bag at random and then put it back, repeat this action once. Add up the two figures you just got.

Obviously, the sum ranges from 2 to 8. In a series of independent trials, what is the probability that "sum is 3" appears before "sum is 5"? (The number of trials is sufficient to ensure at least one "3" or "5" occurs.)

Remember to keep three significant digits.


The answer is 0.333.

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2 solutions

Mark Hennings
Sep 12, 2019

The probability that 3 3 occurs before 5 5 , with 3 3 occurring on the n n th trial, is ( 5 8 ) n 1 × 1 8 \big(\tfrac58\big)^{n-1} \times \tfrac18 . Thus the probability that 3 3 occurs before 5 5 is n = 1 ( 5 8 ) n 1 × 1 8 = 1 3 \sum_{n=1}^\infty \big(\tfrac58\big)^{n-1} \times \tfrac18 \; = \; \boxed{\tfrac13}

River Mount
Sep 12, 2019

Let

event A={"3" occurs in the first experiment}, event B={"5" occurs in the first experiment}

event C={neither "3" nor "5" occurs in the first experiment}, event D={"3" occurs before "5" in a row of experiments}

It is simple to know:

P ( A ) = 2 4 × 4 = 1 8 , P ( B ) = 4 4 × 4 = 1 4 , P ( C ) = 1 P ( A ) P ( B ) = 5 8 P(A)=\frac{2}{4\times 4}=\frac{1}{8}, P(B)=\frac{4}{4\times 4}=\frac{1}{4}, P(C)=1-P(A)-P(B)=\frac{5}{8}

since:

A B C = S , A B = A B = , A C = , B C = A\bigcup B\bigcup C=S, A\bigcap B=AB=\varnothing, A\bigcap C=\varnothing, B\bigcap C=\varnothing

we get:

( A B C ) D = A D B D C D = S D = D , A D B D = , A D C D = , B D C D = (A\bigcup B\bigcup C)\bigcap D=AD\bigcup BD\bigcup CD=S\bigcap D=D,\\ AD\bigcap BD=\varnothing, AD\bigcap CD=\varnothing, BD\bigcap CD=\varnothing

finally,

P ( D ) = P ( A D ) + P ( B D ) + P ( C D ) = P ( A ) P ( D A ) + P ( B ) P ( D B ) + P ( C ) P ( D C ) P(D)=P(AD)+P(BD)+P(CD)=P(A)*P(D|A)+P(B)*P(D|B)+P(C)*P(D|C)

Here S represents a certain event.

In fact, it's not complicated to get this formula just using your intuition.

Also,

P ( D A ) = 1 , P ( D B ) = 0 , P ( D C ) = P ( D ) P(D|A)=1, P(D|B)=0, P(D|C)=P(D)

Note that different trails are independent, so the first time you didn't obtain a "3" or "5"(that is, event C happens), the probably that D happens remains the same. P ( D ) = 1 8 × 1 + 1 4 × 0 + 5 8 × P ( D ) P ( D ) = 1 3 0.333 P(D)=\frac{1}{8}\times 1+\frac{1}{4}\times 0+\frac{5}{8}\times P(D)\rightarrow P(D)=\frac{1}{3}\approx0.333

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