The equation x 5 − 2 x 4 − 1 = 0 has five complex roots r 1 , r 2 , r 3 , r 4 , r 5 . Find the value of r 1 8 1 + r 2 8 1 + r 3 8 1 + r 4 8 1 + r 5 8 1 .
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Nice solution!
In the third-to-last line, do you mean 2 ∑ r i r j instead of ∑ r i r j ?
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Yes, I guess I didn't think about it already knowing it was 0 :) I should have also explicitly specified i = j
Some steps could have used a little explanation, but pretty straightforward and nice solution :)
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Thanks. I guess I should explain in a bit more detail about the step where we square both sides and then substitute in the roots for x . They way I wrote it actually has a little loophole becase the step "squaring both sides" isn't reversible.
A better way would be: By definition of the term "root" we can go from the equation x − 4 = ( x − 2 ) to r 1 − 4 = ( r 1 − 2 ) . Then we can square this latter equation , which is fine. And we do that for all five values of r i and then add the resulting five equations together.
The step of "squaring both sides", i.e. going from x − 4 = ( x − 2 ) to x − 8 = ( x − 2 ) 2 only works in the forwards direction: if y satisfies the first one it satisfies the second one - however there may be values for x in the second one that don't satisfy the first one. So it might be unclear to consider r i a root of the squared version.
Nice solution! Yes, not all of the roots of x − 8 = ( x − 2 ) 2 are the roots of x 4 ( x − 2 ) = 1 , but nobody said they were. See the author's comment below for more details.
how can you say that all the five solution are complex knowing that the coefficients are real & as complex solutions exists in pair so as to cancel the complex part of conjugate pair
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Real numbers are a subset of complex numbers. If they meant that real numbers are not allowed they would say "non-real" or something limilar.
According to Vieta's formula, we have:
∑ i = 1 5 r i = 2 .
∑ i = 1 4 ∑ j = i + 1 5 r i r j = 0 .
r 1 r 2 r 3 r 4 r 5 = 1 .
We have: ( ∑ i = 1 5 r i ) 2 = ∑ i = 1 5 r i 2 + 2 ∑ i = 1 4 ∑ j = i + 1 5 r i r j .
Therefore, ∑ i = 1 5 r i 2 = 4 It is obvious that 0 is not a root of the equation.
Therefore, for each root r of the given equation, we have: r 4 1 = r − 2
Therefore, ∑ i = 1 5 r i 8 1 = ∑ i = 1 5 ( r i − 2 ) 2
= ∑ i = 1 5 ( r i 2 − 4 r i + 4 ) = 4 − 4 ∗ 2 + 4 ∗ 5 = 1 6
Nicely done!
Very nicely done!
what is Vieta's formula ?
We can rewrite the equation as x 4 ( x − 2 ) = 1 so x 4 = ( x − 2 ) 1 . Square both sides and take the reciprocal to get x 8 1 = ( x − 2 ) 2 . Now consider the roots to this equation: r 1 , r 2 , . . . , r 5 . These roots satisfy the equation above. Now consider the polynomial ( x + 2 ) 5 − 2 ( x + 2 ) 4 − 1 = x 5 + 8 x 4 + 2 4 x 3 + 3 2 x 2 + 1 6 x − 1 . This polynomial will have roots ( r 1 − 2 ) , ( r 2 − 2 ) , . . . , ( r 5 − 2 ) . Apply Newton sums or expand and we find that the sum of the squares of the roots for this polynomial is 8 2 − 2 ⋅ 2 4 = 1 6 . Notice that the sum of the squares of the roots of this polynomial is the desired sum that we want with the original polynomial so the answer is 1 6 .
Since x = 0 is not a root, we can divide the original equation by x 3 , x 4 , x 8 each to get x 2 − 2 x = x 3 1 , x − 2 = x 4 1 and x 3 1 − x 4 2 = x 8 1 respectively. By substituting the first 2 terms in the third equation with the first two equations, we get that x 8 1 = ( x 2 − 2 x ) − 2 ( x − 2 ) = x 2 − 4 x + 4 for all roots x . Furthermore, by Vieta's theorem, we obtain that ∑ i = 1 5 r i = 2 and i = 1 ∑ 5 r i 2 = ( i = 1 ∑ 5 r i ) 2 − 2 ( 1 ≤ i < j ≤ 5 ∑ r i r j ) = 2 2 − 2 ( 0 ) = 4 Therefore, i = 1 ∑ 5 r i 8 1 = i = 1 ∑ 5 r i 2 − 4 i = 1 ∑ 5 r i + i = 1 ∑ 5 4 = 4 − 4 ( 2 ) + 5 ( 4 ) = 1 6
∑ri=2 ∑rirj=0 r1r2r3r4r5=1 Let Sn=r1^n + r2^n +r3^n + r4^n + r5^n
Substituting the roots simultaneously and sum them up, S5 - 2S4 - S0 = 0 Dividing both side by x^3, S2 - 2S1 - S-3 = 0
S2 = (S1)^2 - 2(S2) = 4 S1 = 2
So, 4 - 2(2) - S-3 = 0 S-3 = 0
Dividing both side by x^4, S1 - 2S0 - S-4 = 0 2 - 2(5) - S-4 = 0 S-4 = -8
Dividing both side by x^8, S-3 - 2S-4 - S-8 = 0 0 - 2(-8) = S-8 S-8 = 16
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Observe that: r i 4 ( r i − 2 ) = 1 ⇒ r i 4 1 = r i − 2 ⇒ r i 8 1 = r i 2 − 4 r i + 4 .
Hence, ∑ i = 1 5 r i 8 1 = ∑ r i 2 − 4 ∑ r i + 4 ∗ 5 = ( ∑ r i ) 2 − 2 ∑ r i r j − 4 ∗ 2 + 2 0 [By Vieta's Relations]
= 2 2 − 2 ∗ 0 − 4 ∗ 2 + 2 0 = 1 6
The application of Newton sums seems to be a promising route, but we must first transform a sum of negative powers of roots into a sum of positive powers. This can be accomplished by carefully rearranging the equation:
x 5 − 2 x 4 − 1 = 0 x 5 − 2 x 4 = 1 x 4 ( x − 2 ) = 1 x − 2 = x 4 1 ( x − 2 ) 2 = x 8 1
We can thus rewrite the desired expression as i = 1 ∑ 5 ( r i − 2 ) 2 = i = 1 ∑ 5 r i 2 − 4 r i + 4 From Vieta's formulas (or from Newton sums), we can find that the sum of the roots is 2. From Newton sums, we can find that the sum of the squares of the roots is twice this, or 4. Therefore, the desired expression is 4 − 4 × 2 + 2 0 = 16 .
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By Vieta's formulae, we know ∑ r i = 2 ∑ r i r j = 0
Rearranging the original equation: x 5 − 2 x 4 x 4 ( x − 2 ) x − 8 ∑ r i − 8 = 1 = 1 = ( x − 2 ) 2 = ∑ ( r i − 2 ) 2 = ∑ ( r i 2 − 4 r i + 4 ) = ∑ r i 2 − 4 ∑ r i + 2 0 = ( ∑ r i ) 2 − ∑ r i r j − 4 ∑ r i + 2 0 = 4 − 0 − 8 + 2 0 = 1 6