Flips of a Coin

The probability that it will take 5 5 or more flips of a fair coin before it lands on heads can be written as a b \frac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime positive integers. Find a + b a+b .


The answer is 17.

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9 solutions

Noel Quirol
Oct 21, 2013

P(E) = 1 - P(1 flip or 2 flips or 3 flips or 4 flips)

    = 1 - 1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16
    = 1 - 15/16
    = 1/16

a+b = 17
Ryan Soedjak
Oct 20, 2013

we have da answer = i = 5 1 2 i = 1 16 . \text{da answer}=\sum_{i=5}^\infty\frac1{2^i}=\frac1{16}.

Or the answer is P ( T T T T ) = 1 16 P(TTTT)=\dfrac{1}{16} .

Daniel Chiu - 7 years, 7 months ago

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I hope this comment gets more vote ups than the solutions which are present uptil now :P

Soham Chanda - 7 years, 7 months ago

oops i'm dumb.

Ryan Soedjak - 7 years, 7 months ago

I somewhat just guessed and did 1 2 16 \frac{1}{2^{16}}

Mohith Manohara - 7 years, 7 months ago

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It's because there is a 1 2 4 \frac1{2^4} chance that the first 4 flips are tails and a 1 2 \frac12 chance that the 5th flip is heads.

Ryan Soedjak - 7 years, 7 months ago

I meant \frac{1}{2^{5}

Mohith Manohara - 7 years, 7 months ago
Test User
Oct 22, 2013

The event that it will take 5+ flips to get a heads is equivalent to the odds of getting four tails in a row. The chances of this are one in 2 to the power of 4, or 1 in 16. Adding the numerator and denominator results in 17.

Aditya Joshi
Feb 6, 2014

For the coin to take 5 5 heads or more to get heads, we should get 4 4 tails in the first four tosses. The probability for this to occur is 1 2 × 1 2 × 1 2 × 1 2 = 1 2 4 = 1 16 \dfrac{1}{2} \times \dfrac{1}{2} \times \dfrac{1}{2} \times \dfrac{1}{2} = \dfrac{1}{2^4} = \dfrac{1}{16} giving us the answer 1 + 16 = 17 1 + 16 = \boxed{17}

Michael Tang
Oct 24, 2013

The events described in the problem will occur if and only if the first four flips are tails. The probability of this is clearly ( 1 2 ) 4 = 1 16 , \left(\dfrac12\right)^4 = \dfrac{1}{16}, so the answer is 1 + 16 = 17 . 1+16 = \boxed{17}.

Clifford Wilmot
Oct 22, 2013

If we have 5 5 or more flips before we get heads, then the first 4 4 flips must be tails. The probability of getting a tail on any given flip is 1 2 \frac{1}{2} , so the probability of 4 4 tails in a row is ( 1 2 ) 4 \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^4 , which is equal to 1 16 \frac{1}{16} . 1 + 16 = 17 1+16=17 .

Sahil Gohan
May 4, 2014

1) there can be infinite possibilities as shown below. (T = tails and H = heads) T T T T H , T T T T T H , T T T T T T H , T T T T T T T H, ............

2)for 1st case probability is 1/32....for second case it is 1/64....for third case its 1/128 and so on.

3) since any of these is possible (because its given in question 5 or more heads) we wilh to add these as follows.

(1/32) + (1/64) + (1/128) + ....... this forms a GP with the first term (1/32) and common difference (1/2)

4) find the sum to infinite terms we get (1/16)....therefore a+b = 17

Donald Hobson
Oct 26, 2013

Needing 5 or more tosses to get heads is equivalent to the first four tosses giving tails. The chance of this is 1/2^4=1/16. 1+16=17

Elijah Tan
Oct 21, 2013

We have to read the question carefully. It is 5 or more flips. What is means is that 5,6,7,8,.... infinite number of flips that does not give u a heads. For 5 flips, it is written as (1/2)^5 and we have to consider 6,7,8..... which is just (1/2)^6, (1/2)^7, (1/2)^8..... and since it is a geometric progression of 1/2 starting from n = 5 to infinity, (1/32)/(1-1/2) = 1/16

exactly this is the way even i did. In fact: P(E)= 1-P(1 flip or 2 flips or 3 flips or 4 flips) is a correct shorter method

Soumay Gupta - 7 years, 7 months ago

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ok can. smart loh. =)

Elijah Tan - 7 years, 7 months ago

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