From Quadratic To Cubic

Algebra Level 3

Let a a and b b be the roots of the quadratic polynomial x 2 x 4 = 0. x^2-x-4=0. Let f ( x ) f(x) be a cubic polynomial such that f ( a ) = a , f ( b ) = b , f(a)=a, f(b)=b, f ( a + b ) = a + b , f(a+b)=a+b, and f ( a b ) = 84. f(ab)=-84. What is the value of f ( 6 ) ? f(6)?

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4 solutions

Daniel Liu
Mar 18, 2014

Let g ( x ) = f ( x ) x g(x)=f(x)-x . We see that g ( a ) = 0 g(a)=0 , g ( b ) = 0 g(b)=0 , and g ( a + b ) = 0 g(a+b)=0 . Therefore g ( x ) = A ( x a ) ( x b ) ( x ( a + b ) ) g(x)=A(x-a)(x-b)(x-(a+b)) for some constant A A . This means f ( x ) = A ( x a ) ( x b ) ( x ( a + b ) ) + x f(x)=A(x-a)(x-b)(x-(a+b))+x .

First, note that ( x a ) ( x b ) = x 2 x 4 (x-a)(x-b)=x^2-x-4 . This means f ( x ) = A ( x 2 x 4 ) ( x ( a + b ) ) + x f(x)=A(x^2-x-4)(x-(a+b))+x .

Also, note that by Vietas, a + b = 1 a+b=1 and a b = 4 ab=-4 . This means that we can further simplify f ( x ) = A ( x 2 x 4 ) ( x 1 ) + x f(x)=A(x^2-x-4)(x-1)+x , and that f ( 4 ) = 84 f(-4)=-84 .

We can now solve for A A : f ( 4 ) = A ( ( 4 ) 2 ( 4 ) 4 ) ( ( 4 ) 1 ) + ( 4 ) = 84 f(-4)=A((-4)^2-(-4)-4)((-4)-1)+(-4)=-84 , and simplifying gives A = 1 A=1 .

Now we have the function f ( x ) = ( x 2 x 4 ) ( x 1 ) + x f(x)=(x^2-x-4)(x-1)+x . Plugging in 6 6 for x x gives f ( 6 ) = 136 f(6)=\boxed{136} , and we are done.

your solution is very beautiful!

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 2 months ago

Great solution......just wondering how we could do it with the method of differences......

Satvik Golechha - 7 years, 2 months ago

Nice solution, i too did it this way.

mietantei conan - 7 years, 2 months ago

brilliant!!!

Thanh Viet - 7 years, 2 months ago

Great!!!

Shreyansh Vats - 7 years, 1 month ago
Eloy Machado
Mar 19, 2014

My solution was too long. By the way, here is it:

a a and b b are the roots of x 2 x 4 = 0 { x }^{ 2 }-x-4=0 . Then, by Vieta´s , we have:

a + b = 1 a+b=1 and a b = 4 ab = -4

Let f ( x ) = m x 3 + n x 2 + p x + q f(x)=m{ x }^{ 3 }+n{ x }^{ 2 }+px+q

We see that:

f ( a ) = m a 3 + n a 2 + p a + q = a f(a)=m{ a }^{ 3 }+n{ a }^{ 2 }+pa+q = a

f ( b ) = m b 3 + n b 2 + p b + q = b f(b)=m{ b }^{ 3 }+n{ b }^{ 2 }+pb+q = b

f ( a + b ) = f ( 1 ) = m + n + p + q = 1 f(a+b)= f(1) = m + n + p + q = 1

f ( a b ) = f ( 4 ) = 64 m + 16 n 4 p + q = 84 f(ab)= f(-4) = -64m + 16n - 4p + q = -84

We know that:

a 2 + b 2 = ( a + b ) 2 2 a b = 1 2 2 ( 4 ) = 9 { a }^{ 2 }+{ b }^{ 2 }={ (a+b) }^{ 2 }-2ab={ 1 }^{ 2 }-2\cdot (-4)=9

and

a 3 + b 3 = ( a + b ) ( a 2 a b + b 2 ) = ( 1 ) ( 9 ( 4 ) ) = 13 { a }^{ 3 }+{ b }^{ 3 }=(a+b)({ a }^{ 2 }-ab+{ b }^{ 2 })=(1)(9-(-4))=13

Then, we can produce:

f ( a ) + f ( b ) = m ( a 3 + b 3 ) + n ( a 2 + b 2 ) + p ( a + b ) + 2 q = a + b f(a) + f(b) = m({ a }^{ 3 }+{ b }^{ 3 })+n({ a }^{ 2 }+{ b }^{ 2 })+p(a+b)+2q = a+b

13 m + 9 n + p + 2 q = 1 \Rightarrow 13m+9n+p+2q = 1

We also know that:

a 2 b 2 = ( a + b ) ( a b ) = 1 ( a b ) = a b { a }^{ 2 }-{ b }^{ 2 }={ (a+b) }(a-b)={ 1 }\cdot(a-b)=a-b

and

a 3 b 3 = ( a b ) ( a 2 + a b + b 2 ) = ( a b ) ( 9 + ( 4 ) ) = 5 ( a b ) { a }^{ 3 }-{ b }^{ 3 }=(a-b)({ a }^{ 2 }+ab+{ b }^{ 2 })=(a-b)(9+(-4))=5(a-b)

Then, we can produce:

f ( a ) f ( b ) = m ( a 3 b 3 ) + n ( a 2 b 2 ) + p ( a b ) = a b \quad f(a) - f(b) = m({ a }^{ 3 }-{ b }^{ 3 })+n({ a }^{ 2 }-{ b }^{ 2 })+p(a-b) = a-b

5 m ( a b ) + n ( a b ) + p ( a b ) = a b \Rightarrow 5m(a-b) + n(a-b)+p(a-b)=a-b

dividing all by ( a b ) (a-b) we get: 5 m + n + p = 1 5m + n + p = 1

Now we have a linear system of 4 equations in the variables m, n, p and q:

{ m + n + p + q = 1 5 m + n + p = 1 13 m + 9 n + p + 2 q = 1 64 m + 16 n 4 p + q = 84 \begin{cases} m+n+p+q=1 \\ 5m+n+p=1 \\ 13m+9n+p+2q=1 \\ -64m+16n-4p+q=-84 \end{cases}

solving it we get: m = 1 , n = 2 , p = 2 \quad m = 1, n = -2, p = -2 and q = 4 q = 4 .

Thus, f ( x ) = x 3 2 x 2 2 x + 4 f(x)={ x }^{ 3 }-2{ x }^{ 2 }-2x+4

and then,

f ( 6 ) = 216 72 12 + 4 = 136 f(6) = 216-72-12+4 = \boxed{136} .

Arvind Chander
Mar 18, 2014

Find the value of a and b using x^2-x-4=0. We can assume the function f(x)=(x-a) (x-b) (x-(a+b)) k+x The above function is a cubic and satisfies the given conditions by putting x=a, b,(a+b). Given f(a b)=-84, Using this we can obtain the value of the constant k, which turns out to be 1. Therefore we have the function f(x). Find f(6) by substiting x=6. f(6) turns out to be 136

Akshay Mujumdar
Jan 2, 2015

Since f(a) = a, f(b) = b, f(a+b) = a+b, we can say that a, b and (a+b) are roots of the polynomial function g(x) = f(x) - x = 0. So, g(x) = x^3 - (a+b+(a+b))x^2 + (ab + a(a+b) + b(a+b))x - ab(a+b). Hence, g(x) = x^3 - 2(a+b)x^2 + ((a+b)^2 + ab)x - (ab)(a+b). a and b are roots of x^2 - x -4 = 0. Hence, a+b = 1, ab = -4. Hence, g(x) = x^3 - 2x^2 - 3x +4. g(x) = f(x) - x. Hence f(x) = g(x) + x. Therefore, f(x) = x^3 - 2x^2 - 2x +4. Hence, f(6) = 136.

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