Frozen: It's Coronation Day!

Algebra Level 2

When Anna realises that it is Coronation day she starts singing and fantasising about meeting "the one". Then she starts dancing with a head and accidentally lets go and throws the head across the room onto a cake.

If Anna is at point ( 5 , 0 ) (5,0) on the cartesian co-ordinate plane and the cake is at ( 3 , 0 ) (-3,0) , the flight path of the head can be described by the equation:

y = 2 x 2 + b x + c y=-2x^2+bx+c

Find the value of b + c b+c


The answer is 34.

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5 solutions

Yan Yau Cheng
Apr 25, 2014

Substitute ( 5 , 0 ) (5,0) and ( 3 , 0 ) (-3,0) into the equation:

we have:

0 = 2 ( 5 ) 2 + 5 b + c 0=-2(5)^2+5b+c 0 = 2 ( 3 ) 2 3 b + c 0=-2(-3)^2-3b+c

Combining the 2 equations:

2 ( 5 ) 2 + 5 b + c = 2 ( 3 ) 2 3 b + c -2(5)^2+5b+c=-2(-3)^2-3b+c 50 + 5 b = 18 3 b -50+5b=-18-3b 8 b = 32 8b=32 b = 4 b=4

Substitute b = 4 b=4 into the first equation:

0 = 2 ( 5 ) 2 + 5 ( 4 ) + c 0=-2(5)^2+5(4)+c c = 30 c=30

Hence b + c = 4 + 30 = 34 b+c=4+30=\boxed{34}

That was terribly trivial. Why won't you use Vieta's formula since the y value are both zero for x=-5 and x=3 (this shows that -5 and 3 are the roots of the equation)?

敬全 钟 - 7 years, 1 month ago

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whoops forgot that.... :P

Yan Yau Cheng - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Haha, me too. Such easiness. :P

Finn Hulse - 7 years, 1 month ago

yeah......I did it the same way.....

Rutvik Paikine - 7 years, 1 month ago

Yan Yau, you should tell Mr. Street to use this problem in class - it's related to coordinate geometry xD

Aashman Vyas - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Aashman Vyas Yes, our class "learnt" co-geo. but > 3 4 >\frac34 doesn't know what a parabola is and the rest doesn't know how to graph one.... thats how screwed up our class is.....

Yan Yau Cheng - 7 years, 1 month ago

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lol

Aashman Vyas - 7 years, 1 month ago

Frozen :D

Asher Joy - 7 years, 1 month ago

I solved this problem in this way.

Arghyanil Dey - 7 years, 1 month ago

Why can't you just use the intercept form and expand it?

Frodo Baggins - 7 years, 1 month ago
Finn Hulse
Apr 27, 2014

Slightly different from @Yan Yau Cheng :

First, for a parabola in the form a x 2 + b x + c ax^2+bx+c , the axis of symmetry will always vertical. This means that given any two x x coordinates, the axis of symmetry will always be defined as x = x 1 + x 2 2 x=\frac{x_1+x_2}{2} where x 1 x_1 and x 2 x_2 are the x x -coordinates of two (not necessarily distinct) points sharing a common y y coordinate. Thus, we can average 5 5 and 3 -3 to find the axis of symmetry, which is thus x = 1 x=1 . Now, we know that the formula for the axis of symmetry for a parabola is simply b 2 a \frac{-b}{2a} . Substituting, we get 1 = b 4 b = 4 1=\frac{b}{4} \Longrightarrow b=4 .

Now, we can plug this in and solve for c c . Let's use ( 5 , 0 ) (5, 0) . Thus, 2 ( 25 ) + 4 ( 5 ) + c = 0 -2(25)+4(5)+c=0 and c = 30 c=30 . We can easily verify that this is also true for the point ( 3 , 0 ) (-3, 0) . Thus our desired answer is 30 + 4 = 34 30+4=\boxed{34} . Great problem Yan Yau! :D

Govind Rathi
Oct 18, 2015

Big story simple problem!LOLSimply put in those points, they would satisfy the equations!

Rohit Nair
Apr 29, 2014

Simply substitute values for x and y. Get a pair of linear equations.Solve them.Easy !!

Vaibhav Agrawal
Apr 29, 2014

Put y=0 to get a Quadratic equation in x it will be -2x^2+bx+c=0 Let the two roots be x1,x2 which are -3,5 Also x1+x2=b/2 x1*x2=(-2/c) Solve to get B=4 C=30

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