Genius Insect!

A Thin rod of length l l is hinged at the center. An insect falls on it from a height h h . The distance of the impact point is l / 4 l/4 from the center.
Apparently, the insect is a Genius . To avoid much dizziness, it devices a method to make the rod rotate at constant angular velocity. The insect starts crawling towards the outer edge of the rod.

Find the height h h from which the insect drops, such that by the time the rod becomes vertical , the insect reaches the outer edge.

Details and Assumptions:

  • l = 5 m l = 5m
  • g = 9.8 m / s 2 g=9.8m/s^2
  • The mass of the insect is equal to the mass of the rod
  • Neglect air resistance and friction due to the rod.


The answer is 1.701.

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3 solutions

Pinak Wadikar
Apr 24, 2014

Let us take an overview of the problem

  1. This problem is analogous to 'Variable Mass' problems in Translational motion.
  2. Mass change in translational motion & inertia change here is similar.
  3. Inertia changes as the insect moves from the point where it falls and travels till the end.
  • First we find the angular velocity o m e g a omega with which this rod is going to rotate
  • By the time the bug reaches the rod it will have 2 g h \sqrt{2gh} velocity.
  • Applying conservation of angular momentum about hinge point, we get

m v l 4 = [ m × ( l / 4 ) 2 + m × l 2 12 ] × ω \frac{mvl}{4} = [m \times (l/4)^{2} + \frac{m \times l^{2}}{12}] \times \omega

  1. Now as discussed we get a torque due to changing moment of inertia
  2. This torgue will be equal to torque due to the mass of the insect at that instant

T = d I d t w + d w d t I T = \frac{dI}{dt}w + \frac{dw}{dt}I

T = d I d t w T = \frac{dI}{dt}w

T = 2 m r d r d t ω T = 2mr\frac{dr}{dt}\omega

Also at any given θ \theta , torque due to insect's weight is m g cos θ × r mg \cos \theta \times r

  • Here r is the distance from hinge to insect at any time t.
  • Also θ = ω × t \theta = \omega \times t
  • The net torgue on the rod is zero hence the differential equation we get is

m g cos θ × r = 2 m r d r d t ω mg \cos \theta \times r = 2mr\frac{dr}{dt}\omega

Integrating this and substituting limits as

  • Time: [ 0 ] t o [ π 2 ω ] [0] to [\frac{\pi}{2\omega}]
  • Distance: [ l / 4 ] t o [ l / 2 ] [l/4] to [l/2]
  • Also substituting the value from COAM equation, we get

h = 1.701 h = \boxed{1.701}

is it given that mass of rod and insect are equal.

Ronak Agarwal - 7 years ago

You should put the condition on the problem : "mass of insect == mass of rod"

Sewoong Lim - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Well you should tell this to @Anish Puthuraya . Anyways I enjoyed solving this.

Pinak Wadikar - 7 years ago

I'm quite sure that following your path of logic (which I am quite sure is right) we got L/16, which does not coincide with the answer. Could his answer be wrong? I see no flaw in your logic, after all...

Fan Zhou - 7 years, 1 month ago

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@Fan Zhou there was a small typo which I have rectified now. Thanks for pointing it out. I have also presented my solution in latex. I hope you like it :)

Pinak Wadikar - 7 years ago

cant we put conservation of energy........ using first ,,,,conservation of angular momentum as u did.........

and secondly ,,,

mgl/2(dec in U of insect)==== increase in rotational kinectic energy of system (0.5 (If- Ii)w^2.........

i= moment of inertia initially and finally.....w= angular velocity which is constant,,,,,,,,???????

Ayush Gupta - 7 years ago

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The velocity of the insect is not constant throughout the motion. it changes, as you can see from my explanation!

Pinak Wadikar - 6 years, 11 months ago

it is not given that mass of insect and rod are same.

venket prasad - 6 years, 11 months ago

why have we taken I(moment of inertia)=mr^2 in calculating torque??, why not Ml^2 /12 + mr^2 (l=length of rod) ??

Nikhil Gupta - 6 years, 6 months ago

I didn't understand why would the torque due to change in the inertia and that due to insect's weight would cancel each other. Aren't they in the same direction ? Thanks in advance.

Pranav Rao - 5 years, 5 months ago

Apply conservation of angular momentum about hinge point & find w This 'w' will remain constant. Now this problem is analogous to 'Variable Mass' problems in Translational motion. Mass change in translational motion & inertia change here is similar. Torque=(dI/dt)w+I(dw/dt) =(dI/dt)w At any time 't' let distance of bug from hinge be' r' Hence, Torque=[2mr(dr/dt)]w Now due insect's mass Another torque acts (in opposite direction) As net torque=0 we have: 2mr(dr/dt)=mg[cos(wt)] where 'wt' is the angle subtended at that time t w.r.t. vertical integrate using the limits of time as: 0 to pi/2w and r as: l/4 to l/2 then use the relation we obtained from conservation of ang momentum you will get it as w=12v/7l v is insect's velocity when it strikes the rod Hence sqrt(2gh)=v substitute

Did the same, nice solution BTW.

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 3 months ago
Mirtaki Tajwar
May 21, 2014

Apply conservation of angular momentum about hinge point & find w This 'w' will remain constant. Now this problem is analogous to 'Variable Mass' problems in Translational motion. Mass change in translational motion & inertia change here is similar. Torque=(dI/dt)w+I(dw/dt) =(dI/dt)w At any time 't' let distance of bug from hinge be' r' Hence, Torque=[2mr(dr/dt)]w Now due insect's mass Another torque acts (in opposite direction) As net torque=0 we have: 2mr(dr/dt)=mg[cos(wt)] where 'wt' is the angle subtended at that time t w.r.t. vertical integrate using the limits of time as: 0 to pi/2w and r as: l/4 to l/2 then use the relation we obtained from conservation of ang momentum you will get it as w=12v/7l v is insect's velocity when it strikes the rod Hence sqrt(2gh)=v substitute

This is my previous solution that you copied and pasted -_-. Atleast do not copy my new one.

Pinak Wadikar - 7 years ago

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haha , i can see it clrly !!

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 7 months ago

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