Let f be a real function on the real line with continuous third derivative. Does there exists a point a such that f ( a ) ⋅ f ′ ( a ) ⋅ f ′ ′ ( a ) ⋅ f ′ ′ ′ ( a ) ≥ 0 ?
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It can't equal to 0,i think.
oh ya
but it still satisfies the inequality which says more then or equal to 0 so it should be fine.
Yes it can, consider f(x) = 5. f'=0. f''=0. f'''=0
The goal is to prove that there is always such a for all f ∈ C 3 ( R ) not to give an example !
But is an example sufficient I don't think so
Proof by contradiction :
Suppose that there is f ∈ C 3 ( R ) such that ∀ x ∈ R , f ( x ) f ′ ( x ) f ′ ′ ( x ) f ′ ′ ′ ( x ) < 0
Therefore f ′ ′ ′ is either > 0 or < 0 (if not by continuity, f ′ ′ ′ has a zero). Without loss of generality ( f ← − f ) , we can suppose f ′ ′ ′ > 0 . Then because f ′ ′ is either > 0 or < 0 , if we let a = − ∞ lim f ′ ′ and b = + ∞ lim f ′ ′ (which exist because f ′ ′ is increasing) we have :
The first case : f ′ ′ > 0
Because b > 0 , necessarily f ′ > 0 . Indeed, f ′ ( x ) = ∫ 0 x f ′ ′ ( t ) d t + C x → + ∞ ⟶ + ∞
The same argument shows that f > 0 , therefore f f ′ f ′ ′ f ′ ′ ′ > 0 absurd.
Second case : f ′ ′ < 0
Because a < 0 , necessarily f ′ > 0 . Indeed, f ′ ( x ) = ∫ 0 x f ′ ′ ( t ) d t + C ′ x → − ∞ ⟶ + ∞ Then, necessarily f < 0 because f ( x ) = ∫ 0 x f ′ ( t ) d t + C ′ ′ x → − ∞ ⟶ − ∞ And at the end f f ′ f ′ ′ f ′ ′ ′ > 0 , absurd.
Let f(x) = x^3, f'(x) = 3x^2, f''(x) = 6x, f'''(x) = 6. Then f(x) f'(x) f''(x)*f'''(x) = 108x^6. Let x be any real number.
Not always. Take, for example f ( x ) = exp ( − x ) , x ∈ R . Then f ( a ) f ′ ( a ) f ′ ′ ( a ) f ′ ′ ′ ( a ) = − exp ( − 4 a ) < 0 , ∀ a ∈ R .
Not sure where you are getting the negative sign in front of the e − 4 a since:
e − x ( d x d e − x ) ( d x 2 d 2 e − x ) ( d x 3 d 3 e − x ) = ( e − x ) ( − e − x ) ( e − x ) ( − e − x ) = e − 4 x > 0 ∀ x ∈ R
Oops. My bad!
Let f ( x ) = e x , then for all real a , f ( a ) . f ′ ( a ) . f ′ ′ ( a ) . f ′ ′ ′ ( a ) > 0 .
That is just one equation. What about proving all real function that have a continuous third derivative satisfies this property?
f ( x ) = 0 satisfies this everywhere.
Moreover, if f ( x ) = g ( x ) , such that g ′ ( a ) g ′ ′ ( a ) g ′ ′ ′ ( a ) > o r < 0 , you can choose f ( x ) = g ( x ) − g ( a ) ± 1 to make the equation positive.
e.g. f ( a ) = e a .
For a ≥ 0 , f ( a ) . f ′ ( a ) . f " ( a ) . f ′ " ( a ) = ( e a ) ( e a ) ( e a ) ( e a ) ≥ 0 .
For − a < 0 , f ( a ) . f ′ ( a ) . f " ( a ) . f ′ " ( a ) = ( e − a ) ( − e − a ) ( e − a ) ( − e − a ) ≥ 0 .
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