Get Started With Combinatorics 4 – More Parade

After she'd almost finished planning the parade layout, Alice's boss let her know that he was adding some more participants to the parade. "There's no way I can finish this in time now!" Alice said. "There must be more than a billion possibilities!"

What is the minimum number of participants in the parade that will give more than a billion possible orderings?


The answer is 13.

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Arron Kau Staff
May 7, 2014

In general, for n n people, there are 1 × 2 × 3 × × ( n 1 ) × n 1 \times 2 \times 3 \times \ldots \times (n-1) \times n ways to arrange them.

From the previous question, when we have 7 people, there are 5040 ways to arrange them.
When we have 8 people, there are 8 × 5040 = 40320 8 \times 5040 = 40320 ways to arrange them.
When we have 9 people, there are 9 × 40320 = 362880 9 \times 40320 = 362880 ways to arrange them.
When we have 10 people, there are 10 × 362880 = 3628800 10 \times 362880 = 3628800 ways to arrange them.
When we have 11 people, there are 11 × 362880 = 39916800 11\times 362880 = 39916800 ways to arrange them.
When we have 12 people, there are 12 × 39916800 = 479001600 12 \times 39916800 = 479001600 ways to arrange them.
When we have 13 people, there are 13 × 479001600 = 6227020800 13 \times 479001600 = 6227020800 ways to arrange them.


Hence, the minimum number of participants to reach more than a billion possible orderings, is 13.

THAT'S OKAY. BUT ISN'T THERE A WAY TO SOLVE IT WITHOUT CALCULATING?

Varun Agrawal - 7 years ago
Barry Evans
May 9, 2014

I looked up factorial list in wikipedia. 13 was first one to exceed a billion

good way that was..

Rashi Kumar - 7 years ago

I did the same... :)

Krishanth Ppt - 7 years, 1 month ago
Jeet Dutta
May 8, 2014

If we calculate we can see that 13! is the first factorial to give a value more than a billion.

Krishna Deb
May 21, 2014

sorry guys - you HAVE ta calculate this one. 1 billion means 9 zeroes. So , starting from....like 8 or 9 work your way upwards or work your way downwards from...maybe 99(glad i had a calculator, 99 was the first one that came into my mind, i tried 15 next, funnily enough) till you get to 13. Its approximately 6 times a billion. But its the 1st one to have 9 zeroes, so there's your answer. Almost zero brainwork involved. Cheers.

Yo Baba
May 12, 2014

the arrangement of 'n' number of DISTINCT objects can be done in n! ways.(n! denotes the factorial of the integer) if we need arrangements more than one million, the factorial(n x (n-1) x (n-2) x .. . . . . . . x 1) should be greater than or equal to one million. thus thirteen is the first integer whose factorial exeeds one million.

Brian Lee
May 9, 2014

13! is the first number whose factorial is over billion. (1,000,000)

Kevin Patel
May 9, 2014

For 12 people, 12 ! = 479001600
for 13 people, 13 ! = 6227020800 which is more than 1 billion...

Hence 13 is minimum possible people in parade

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