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Algebra Level 3

The square root of 8 4 3 8-4\sqrt{3} can be written in the form a b \sqrt{a} - \sqrt{b} For positive integers a , b a,b with a > b > 0 a>b>0 .

Find the value of 22 a + 10 b 22a + 10b


The answer is 152.

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8 4 3 = 6 2 × 2 3 + 2 = ( 6 2 ) 2 8-4\sqrt{3}=6-2\times 2\sqrt{3}+2=(\sqrt{6}-\sqrt{2})^{2} . So a = 6 a=6 and b = 2 b=2

22 a + 10 b = 22 × 6 + 10 × 2 = 152 22a+10b=22\times 6+10\times 2=152

I couldn't understand how it linked to geometry.....

Curtis Clement
Feb 10, 2015

Hint: Proceed with 8 4 3 ( a b ) 2 8-4\sqrt{3}\equiv(\sqrt{a} - \sqrt{b})^2 to get a+b = 8 and ab =12 (for a,b > 0) where the only solution is a =6 and b=2 which can be written as 6 2 \sqrt{6} - \sqrt{2} . This links to geometry because 6 2 = 4 s i n 15 \sqrt{6} - \sqrt{2} = 4sin15 .

  • Sorry, but can someone explain me why a = 6 a = 6 and b = 2 b = 2 ?
  • I know it, ( 6 2 ) 2 = 8 4 3 (\sqrt{6} - \sqrt{2})^{2} = 8 - 4\sqrt{3} , BUT so does ( 2 6 ) 2 (\sqrt{2} - \sqrt{6})^{2} . So, since there was no sign of a > b a > b , my answer came up 104 too.
  • I think you might specify a > b a > b , Curtis.
  • By the way, great question and nice solution xD.

Matheus Abrão Abdala - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Good point - I forgot about that. Btw this links in slightly with a note I have posted recently about calculating Sin15, Sin75, tan 15 etc without using compount angle formulae, so you might want to check that out :)

Curtis Clement - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Sure ! I'll check it out as soon as i can :)

Matheus Abrão Abdala - 6 years, 4 months ago

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