Girard Symmetry

Algebra Level 4

Non-zero x x and y y are such that x 2 + x y + y 2 = 0 x^2+xy+y^2=0 . Find the value of x 2001 + y 2001 ( x + y ) 2001 \dfrac {x^{2001}+y^{2001}}{(x+y)^{2001}} .


The answer is -2.

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2 solutions

Kushal Bose
Jul 3, 2017

x 2 + x y + y 2 = 0 = > ( x y ) 2 + x y + 1 = 0 x^2+xy+y^2=0 \\=> (\dfrac{x}{y})^2+\dfrac{x}{y}+1=0

Let , x y = a \frac{x}{y}=a then a 2 + a + 1 = 0 a^2+a+1=0 whose roots are ω , ω 2 \omega,\omega^2 (these are cube roots of unity)

Now come to the required expression x 2001 + y 2001 ( x + y ) 2001 = ( x / y ) 2001 + 1 ( x / y + 1 ) 2001 = a 2001 + 1 ( a + 1 ) 2001 \dfrac{x^{2001}+y^{2001}}{(x+y)^{2001}} \\ =\dfrac{(x/y)^{2001}+1}{(x/y+1)^{2001}} \\ =\dfrac{a^{2001}+1}{(a+1)^{2001}}

Now put either ω \omega or ω 2 \omega^2 in place of a a it becomes ω 2001 + 1 ( ω + 1 ) 2001 \dfrac{\omega^{2001}+1}{(\omega+1)^{2001}}

Using the formula ω 2 + ω + 1 = 0 \omega^2+\omega+1=0 we get the expression will be 2 \boxed{-2}

The answer is 2 -2 . There is a typo.

Hana Wehbi - 3 years, 11 months ago

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yeah u r correct. Fixed it

Kushal Bose - 3 years, 11 months ago

Did the exact same!!!

Aditya Kumar - 3 years, 11 months ago

Can you show me how to use the formula ω 2 + ω + 1 = 0 \omega^2+\omega+1=0 to get 2 -2 from ω 2001 + 1 ( ω + 1 ) 2001 \dfrac{\omega^{2001}+1}{(\omega+1)^{2001}}

Dexter Woo Teng Koon - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Put w + 1 = w 2 w+1=-w^2 and use w 3 k = 1 w^{3k}=1

Kushal Bose - 3 years, 11 months ago
Rajdeep Ghosh
Jul 3, 2017

(Throughout this solution, whenever P n P_n is used, it implies the nth power sum)

A curious fact is that x x + y \frac{x}{x+y} and y x + y \frac{y}{x+y} are the two solutions of the polynomial t 2 t + 1 = 0 t^2-t+1=0 .

We need to find P 2001 P_{2001} for this polynomial.

We see that a 2 = 1 , a 1 = 1 a_2=1, a_1=-1 and a 0 = 1 a_0=1 .

So we form the recursion, 1. P k + 2 + ( 1 ) . P k + 1 + 1. P k = 0 1.P_{k+2}+(-1).P_{k+1}+1.P_k=0 (This recursion is valid as a result of Newton-Girard formula)

or, P k + 2 = P k + 1 P k P_ {k+2}=P_{k+1}-P_k or, P k + 2 = P k P k 1 P k P_ {k+2}=P_k-P_{k-1}-P_k So, P k + 2 = P k 1 P_ {k+2}=-P_{k-1} Implies that, P 2001 = P 1998 = P 1995 = . . . = P 3 P_{2001}=-P_{1998}=P_{1995}=...=P_{3}

We are supposed to find x 3 + y 3 ( x + y ) 3 \dfrac {x^{3}+y^{3}}{(x+y)^{3}} .

That much math is left to the reader. The answer you'll land on is bound to be 2 \boxed{-2} if you do not make any wrong moves.

Could u pls explain a bit more bcoz i cant understand ur soln.

Aditya Kumar - 3 years, 11 months ago

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You are right. My solution was clumsy. I've updated it. Hope it helps.

Rajdeep Ghosh - 3 years, 11 months ago

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