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On top of a tower of height H \displaystyle H , a Particle is thrown with a velocity u \displaystyle u at a variable angle.

If R m a x \displaystyle R_{max} represents the maximum possible Range of the particle (in meters ), then Evaluate 159 R m a x \displaystyle 159R_{max} to the nearest integer.

Details and Assumptions:
\displaystyle \bullet u = 2 m / s \displaystyle u = 2m/s
\displaystyle \bullet H = 5 m \displaystyle H = 5m
\displaystyle \bullet Take g = 9.8 m / s 2 \displaystyle g = 9.8m/s^2


The answer is 328.

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7 solutions

Anish Puthuraya
Mar 8, 2014

To solve this problem without calculus, I would need to prove a certain theorem.
Let us think about the following problem.
alt text alt text What is the minimum velocity u m i n \displaystyle u_{min} for which the particle passes through ( a , b ) \displaystyle (a,b) ?

Considering the trajectory equation for the motion of the particle,

y = x tan θ g x 2 2 u 2 cos θ 2 y = x\tan\theta - \frac{gx^2}{2u^2\cos\theta^2}

Substituting ( a , b ) \displaystyle (a,b) for ( x , y ) \displaystyle (x,y) ,

b = a tan θ g a 2 2 u 2 cos θ 2 b = a\tan\theta - \frac{ga^2}{2u^2\cos\theta^2}

Rearranging the equation, (use 1 cos 2 θ = sec 2 θ = 1 + tan 2 θ \displaystyle \frac{1}{\cos^2\theta} = \sec^2\theta = 1+\tan^2\theta )

g a 2 tan 2 θ 2 a u 2 tan θ + ( g a 2 + 2 y 2 b ) = 0 ga^2\tan^2\theta - 2au^2\tan\theta + (ga^2+2y^2b) = 0

For a real value of θ \displaystyle \theta to exist,

D 0 D\geq 0

Hence,

u 4 2 u 2 g h g 2 a 2 0 u^4-2u^2gh-g^2a^2\geq 0

( u 2 g b ) 2 g 2 ( b 2 + a 2 ) \Rightarrow (u^2-gb)^2\geq g^2(b^2+a^2)

u g b + g b 2 + a 2 \Rightarrow \boxed{u \geq \sqrt{gb+g\sqrt{b^2+a^2}}}

Now, let us encounter our original problem.
alt text alt text
Clearly, the point ( a , b ) \displaystyle (a,b) that we ought to consider is ( R , H ) \displaystyle (R,-H)

Thus,

u g ( H ) + g H 2 + R 2 u\geq \sqrt{g(-H)+g\sqrt{H^2+R^2}}

( u 2 + g H g ) 2 R 2 + H 2 \Rightarrow \left(\frac{u^2+gH}{g}\right)^2\geq R^2 + H^2

R ( u 2 + g H g ) 2 H 2 \Rightarrow R\leq\sqrt{\left(\frac{u^2+gH}{g}\right)^2-H^2}

Substituting the values provided in the problem,

R 2.061 m R\leq 2.061m

R m a x = 2.061 m R_{max} = 2.061m

Therefore,

159 R m a x = 327.718 m 328 m 159R_{max} = 327.718m \approx \boxed{328m}

mr. anish u could make the problem a little easy. for such a case u can easily deduce that that the angle with which u should project in order to get max. range is 45 degrees though the base is not at the same level as that of the position of projection. and hence u can make the solution more easy!!!

Akash Omble - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Angle is not 45 degrees because it if we project the projectile backwards it will touch the ground at some point at 45 degrees, since the range is maximum. Since the FULL projectile starts from ground at 45 degrees, therefore it is not possible that even at a height of 5 meters the angle will be 45 degrees...

Prem Kumar - 7 years, 2 months ago

No, you are wrong..The angle is not 4 5 o 45^o ..Please check this yourself.

When you assume the angle to be 4 5 o 45^o , the range that comes out is not the same as my solution.

You can even check the next few solutions..they also got the same answer (not 4 5 o 45^o )

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 2 months ago

The angle is 45 degrees if the starting y-position equals the ending y-position. In this case, it starts from 5 meters from the ground and finishes at ground level, so the angle can't be 45 degrees.

Andrew Song - 5 years, 9 months ago

bhai where do u get these theorems and all any book ????

Ak Sharma - 7 years, 3 months ago

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Well, my prof taught it to us in class.

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 3 months ago

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where do you study any coaching institute if yes which one????

Shantanu Das - 7 years, 1 month ago

Well, I noticed that there is a typo in the first few lines..

I wrote cos θ 2 \displaystyle\cos\theta^2 , but instead it should be cos 2 θ \displaystyle\cos^2\theta

Sorry about that.

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 3 months ago
Shikhar Jaiswal
Mar 8, 2014

R = u cos θ t R=u\cos\theta t

H = u sin ( θ ) t 1 2 g t 2 -H=u\sin(\theta)t-\frac {1}{2}gt^2

Now..lets manipulate a bit

cos θ = R u t \cos\theta=\frac {R}{ut}

sin θ = ( 1 2 g t 2 H ) u t \sin\theta=\frac {(\frac {1}{2}gt^2-H)}{ut}

on substituting values and using the identity

( cos θ ) 2 + ( sin θ ) 2 ) = 1 (\cos\theta)^2+(\sin\theta)^2)=1

R 2 = 4 t 2 ( 4.9 t 2 5 ) 2 R^2=4t^2-(4.9t^2-5)^2

to minimize R R ........ minimize R 2 R^2

on calculating R m a x = 2.061 m R_{max}=2.061 m

Really awesome approach,,

Mvs Saketh - 6 years, 8 months ago

i didn't get same answer on minimizing , doing mistake somewhere. how did you minimize

Saket Joshi - 6 years, 5 months ago
Reaber John
Mar 1, 2014

Let θ \theta be the angle with the horizontal at which the particle is thrown. Let t t be the time it takes to reach the ground. Let R R be the range. Then

R = u cos ( θ ) t R = u \cos (\theta ) \ t

H = u sin ( θ ) t 1 2 g t 2 \displaystyle{-H = u \sin (\theta) \ t - \frac {1}{2} g t^{2}}

Solving for t t and substituting (the positive value of t) in the equation for R,

R = u cos ( θ ) [ u sin ( θ ) + ( u 2 sin 2 ( θ ) + 2 g h ) ] g R = \displaystyle{ \frac {u \cos (\theta) \left [ u \sin(\theta) +\sqrt {(u^{2} \sin^{2}( \theta) + 2gh)} \right ]}{g} }

For R m a x R_{max} find the equation for d R d θ = 0 \displaystyle{\frac {dR}{d \theta} = 0} . Thus we get after some simplification

u 2 ( 4 x 2 4 x + 1 ) ( u 2 x + 2 g h ) = x ( u 2 + 2 g h ) 2 \displaystyle{u^{2} (4x^{2} - 4x + 1) ( u^{2}x + 2gh) = x(u^{2} + 2gh)^2 }

where x = sin 2 ( θ ) x = \sin^{2}( \theta) . This is a cubic in x. We get three roots of which two roots are greater than 1. The third root namely x = 0.0329234 x = 0.0329234 gives the value for R m a x = 2.0609346 R_{max} = 2.0609346 .

I had to obtain the roots for x numerically. Is there a better way to solve this problem in which the solution can be obtained analytically ?

yo!

Mayank Gupta - 7 years, 3 months ago

There is a much simpler way!

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 3 months ago

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How do you do it ?

Reaber John - 7 years, 3 months ago

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Ill post a solution in within an hour or so.

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 3 months ago

Done

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 3 months ago

you can check out my solution too...its similar to yours.. but i managed to avoid calculation. ..anyway Anish's solution is a much better and easier method

Shikhar Jaiswal - 7 years, 3 months ago

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I just thought of another solution. Starting from the trajectory equation given by Anish,

y = x tan θ g x 2 2 u 2 sec 2 θ y = x \tan \theta - \displaystyle { \frac {g x^{2}}{2 u^{2}} \sec^{2} \theta}

Replace ( x , y ) (x,y) by ( R , H ) (R,-H)

H = R tan θ g R 2 2 u 2 sec 2 θ -H = R \tan \theta - \displaystyle {\frac {g R^{2}}{2 u^{2}}} \sec^{2}\theta

Let θ m a x \theta_{max} be the angle corresponding to the maximum range R m a x R_{max} . For this value of θ = θ m a x \theta = \theta_{max} we will have d R d θ = 0 \displaystyle {\frac {d R}{d \theta} = 0} .

So, differentiate the above equation throughout by θ \theta . Replacing d R d θ \displaystyle {\frac {dR}{d \theta}} \ by 0 0 , R R by R m a x R_{max} \ and θ \theta by θ m a x \theta_{max} and noting that H H is a constant we get :

0 = R m a x sec 2 θ m a x g R m a x 2 u 2 sec 2 θ m a x tan θ m a x 0 = R_{max} \sec^{2} \theta_{max} - \displaystyle {\frac {g R_{max}^{2}}{ u^{2} } \sec^{2}\theta_{max} \tan \theta_{max}}

SInce sec 2 θ \sec^{2} \theta can never be 0 and R m a x 0 R_{max} \neq 0 we can divide both sides by R m a x sec 2 θ m a x R_{max} \sec^{2} \theta_{max}

Thus tan θ m a x = u 2 g R m a x \ \ \tan \theta_{max} = \displaystyle {\frac {u^{2}}{g R_{max}}} .

Now, replace ( R , θ ) ( R, \theta ) by ( R m a x , θ m a x ) ( R_{max}, \theta_{max} ) in the equation of the trajectory and using the above relation between tan θ m a x \tan \theta_{max} and R m a x R_{max} we get :

H = u 2 g g 2 u 2 ( u 4 g 2 + R 2 ) -H = \displaystyle {\frac {u^{2}}{g }} - \displaystyle {\frac {g }{2 u^{2}}} \left ( \displaystyle {\frac {u^{4}}{g^{2}}} + R^{2} \right )

Which gives value of R m a x R_{max} as u 4 g 2 + 2 u 2 H g \sqrt { \displaystyle {\frac {u^{4}}{g^{2}}} + \displaystyle {\frac {2 u^{2} H}{g} } }

So, the trick is to differentiate the equation involving R R and θ \theta without having to first find out R R in terms of θ \theta .

Reaber John - 7 years, 3 months ago

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Yeah!!...right

Shikhar Jaiswal - 7 years, 3 months ago
Prem Kumar
Mar 27, 2014

1. Take x-component of the velocity as X and y-component as Y. Therefor, X 2 + Y 2 = 2 2 X^{2} + Y^{2}=2^{2} ..... (1)

2. Taking Y as the initial speed, and '-5' as the displacement and '-9.8' as the acceleration, derive an expression for time of flight using the equation D = u t = 1 2 a t 2 D=ut=\frac{1}{2}at^{2} . .....(2)

3. We will get and expression of TIME in terms of Y. Use ...(1) to convert the expression of TIME OF FLIGHT in the terms of X.

4. Multiply T with X, where X is the horizontal velocity. This is an expression of RANGE in terms of X. We have to find the MAXIMUM value of this function of X.

5. Differentiate the expression with respect to X, and equate the differentiation with 0 to get a quadratic equation of X. Find the value of X. Use it to find TIME OF FLIGHT, and then RANGE. :-)

Consider the set of inclined planes starting from the top of the tower to the landing point. My claim is that range on ground will be minimized at the angle that gives minimum range for the corresponding incline.
Max range on incline of angle A= u^2/g(1-sinA)=f(A)

Hence f(A)sinA=H And R=H cotA =2.601 m

Anubhav Tyagi
Sep 20, 2016

Man I really appreciate your effort. But it would be better if you ask greatest integer or integer next to greatest integer ... That would be more specified.. Thanx

Felix Trihardjo
May 12, 2014

Use the vector equation and then used implicit differentiation and set the derivative to 0.

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