Harmonic Roots

Algebra Level 3

Solve the equation 3 x 3 + 11 x 2 + 12 x + 4 = 0 3x^{3} + 11x^{2}+12x+4=0 if it is given that the roots form a Harmonic Progression. If the roots are A,B and C/D. Find A+B+C-D

Note- For the root C/D ( the third root in the form of a fraction) , take the numerator to be negative while expressing it as a common fraction.


The answer is -8.

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3 solutions

Pi Han Goh
May 27, 2014

If f ( x ) = 0 f(x) = 0 has roots that form a Harmonic Progression, then f ( 1 x ) = 0 f \left ( \frac {1}{x} \right ) = 0 has roots that form an Arithmetic Progression.

So 4 x 3 + 12 x 2 + 11 x + 3 = 0 4x^3 + 12x^2 + 11x + 3 = 0 has roots that form Arithmetic Progression.

Or x 3 + 3 x 2 + 11 4 x + 3 4 = 0 x^3 + 3x^2 + \frac {11}{4} x + \frac {3}{4} = 0

Let the roots of the above equation be a d , a , a + d a-d,a,a+d for d > 0 d>0 , by Vieta's formula

3 a = 3 a = 1 3a = -3 \Rightarrow a = -1 and a ( a d ) ( a + d ) = 3 4 d = 1 2 a(a-d)(a+d) = -\frac {3}{4} \Rightarrow d = \frac {1}{2}

Which means the roots of the given equation is 1 1 , 1 1 + 1 2 , 1 1 1 2 \frac {1}{-1}, \frac {1}{-1 + \frac{1}{2}}, \frac {1}{-1 - \frac{1}{2}} or 2 , 1 , 2 3 -2,-1, \frac {-2}{3}

Thus A = 2 , B = 1 , C = 2 , D = 3 A + B + C D = 8 A = -2, B = -1, C = -2, D = 3 \Rightarrow A+B+C-D = \boxed{-8}

First, note that one solution is x = -1 [A,B, are integers. So, there is atleast one integer solution. You can hunt for this integer by plugging in factors of the product of the constant term and the coefficient of x^3]

This leads to the idea that ( x + 1 ) (x+1) is a factor of the expression.

Divide the expression with ( x + 1 ) (x+1) to get 3 x 2 + 8 x + 4 3 x^2+8 x+4

3 x 3 + 11 x 2 + 12 x + 4 = 0 3 x^3 + 11 x^2 + 12 x + 4 = 0

( x + 1 ) ( 3 x 2 + 8 x + 4 ) = 0 \implies (x+1)(3x^2+8x +4) = 0

( x + 1 ) ( 3 x 2 + 6 x + 2 x + 4 ) = 0 \implies (x+1)(3x^2+6x+2x+4)=0

( x + 1 ) ( 3 x ( x + 2 ) + 2 ( x + 2 ) ) = 0 \implies (x+1)(3x(x+2)+2(x+2))=0

( x + 1 ) ( 3 x + 2 ) ( x + 2 ) = 0 \implies (x+1)(3x+2)(x+2)=0

Any of the three factors must equal zero:

So, the three roots are 1 , 2 , 2 3 -1,-2,\frac{-2}{3}

Hey, but there is no guarantee such that if A,B are integers, then there has to be atleast one integral solution. What if it had complex solutions? @Agnishom Chattopadhyay

Krishna Ar - 7 years ago

Neat solution though :)

Krishna Ar - 7 years ago
Kushagra Jaiswal
May 27, 2014

Its simple if you find the roots. -1,-2,-2/3

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Krishna Ar - 7 years ago

Please understand the fact that a SOLUTION MUST BE COMPLETE. There are a lot of users who don't know to find the roots of such equations. ( I too didn't know it a year back.). So always post complete solutions @Kushagra Jaiswal

Krishna Ar - 7 years ago

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Okay dude... but its easy so everyone must get these roots.

Kushagra Jaiswal - 7 years ago

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there are a lot of level 1 and level 2 members...for their benefit form now on, stat writing proper sols...this problem thankfully got solutions form pi han...what if it didnt?

Krishna Ar - 7 years ago

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