Heron formula?

Geometry Level 3

Triangle A B C ABC has A B = 20 AB=20 and B C : A C = 21 : 29 BC: AC=21: 29 . What's the largest area that this triangle can have?

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The answer is 304.5.

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4 solutions

Chris Lewis
Feb 25, 2021

I did this exactly the same way as @Chan Lye Lee , but for an alternative approach: let the coordinates of A A be ( 10 , 0 ) (-10,0) and B ( 10 , 0 ) B(10,0) . Then point C ( x , y ) C(x,y) satisfies ( x + 10 ) 2 + y 2 2 1 2 = ( x 10 ) 2 + y 2 2 9 2 \frac{(x+10)^2+y^2}{21^2}=\frac{(x-10)^2+y^2}{29^2}

This is a circle with centre ( 641 20 , 0 ) \left(\frac{-641}{20},0\right) and radius 609 20 \frac{609}{20} :

The base of Δ A B C \Delta ABC is fixed ( A B = 20 AB=20 ; its height is the y y -coordinate of C C , which is greatest when C C is directly above the centre of the circle; so the largest possible area is 1 2 × 20 × 609 20 = 609 2 \frac12 \times 20 \times \frac{609}{20} = \boxed{\frac{609}{2}}

Hi Chris! I think you solved the problem for the reciprocal of the given ratio. Nevertheless, due to symmetry, both, the way of thinking and the result are correct, lucky you. :)

Thanos Petropoulos - 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Chan Lye Lee
Feb 24, 2021

Let B C = 21 k BC=21k and A C = 29 k AC=29k . Let s = A B + B C + C A 2 = 25 k + 10 s=\dfrac{AB+BC+CA}{2}=25k+10 . Using Heron's formula, the area of traingle A B C ABC is s ( s A B ) ( s B C ) ( s C A ) = ( 25 k + 10 ) ( 25 k 10 ) ( 10 + 4 k ) ( 10 4 k ) = 100 ( k 2 4 25 ) ( 25 4 k 2 ) \sqrt{s\left(s-AB\right)\left(s-BC\right)\left(s-CA\right)} =\sqrt{\left(25k+10\right)\left(25k-10\right)\left(10+4k\right)\left(10-4k\right)} = 100\sqrt{\left(k^2-\frac{4}{25}\right)\left(\dfrac{25}{4}-k^2\right)}

By AM-GM inequality, ( k 2 4 25 ) ( 25 4 k 2 ) ( k 2 4 25 ) + ( 25 4 k 2 ) 2 = 609 200 \sqrt{\left(k^2-\dfrac{4}{25}\right)\left(\dfrac{25}{4}-k^2\right)} \le \dfrac{\left(k^2-\frac{4}{25}\right) + \left(\dfrac{25}{4}-k^2\right)}{2} = \frac{609}{200} , which the equality holds if and only if k 2 4 25 = 25 4 k 2 k^2-\dfrac{4}{25}=\dfrac{25}{4}-k^2 , that is k = 3.205 k=\sqrt{3.205} (achievable).

So, the largest area is 100 × 609 200 = 304.5 100\times \frac{609}{200} = 304.5

Very nice problem and 'neat' solution!

I would suggest using \dfrac instead of \frac in order to make some of the fractions look larger. Anyway, it isn't a big a deal, just thought it was worth mentioning.

Sathvik Acharya - 3 months, 2 weeks ago

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Thanks for the suggestion. I edited it, it does look better. :)

Chan Lye Lee - 3 months, 2 weeks ago

I rather used derivative to find maximum possible area

Zakir Husain - 3 months, 2 weeks ago

It is known that, on a plane, the locus of points C C such that have a given ratio of distances from two fixed points A A and B B is is a circle (called a circle of Apollonius ). If P P is a point on segment A B AB such that P B P A = r \dfrac{\left| \overline{PB} \right|}{\left| \overline{PA} \right|}=r and Q Q is its harmonic conjugate with respect to B B and A A (i.e. Q Q is on line A B AB , outside segment A B AB such that it has the same ratio of distances from B B and A A ), then P Q PQ is a diameter of this circle.
In our case, this ratio is r = 21 29 r=\dfrac{21}{29} . For simplicity, we ‘ll use the label of any segment to denote both the segment and its length. For instance, A B = 20 AB=20 . Let’s calculate the length of this diameter using properties of proportions.

Referring to the figure, P B P A = 21 29 P B P A + P B = 21 29 + 21 P B A B = 21 50 P B = 21 50 × 20 P B = 42 5 \dfrac{PB}{PA}=\dfrac{21}{29}\Rightarrow \dfrac{PB}{PA+PB}=\dfrac{21}{29+21}\Rightarrow \dfrac{PB}{AB}=\dfrac{21}{50}\Rightarrow PB=\dfrac{21}{50}\times 20\Rightarrow PB=\dfrac{42}{5} Q B Q A = 21 29 Q B Q A Q B = 21 29 21 Q B A B = 21 8 Q B = 21 8 × 20 Q B = 105 2 \dfrac{QB}{QA}=\dfrac{21}{29}\Rightarrow \dfrac{QB}{QA-QB}=\dfrac{21}{29-21}\Rightarrow \dfrac{QB}{AB}=\dfrac{21}{8}\Rightarrow QB=\dfrac{21}{8}\times 20\Rightarrow QB=\dfrac{105}{2} Hence, P Q = P B + B Q = 42 5 + 105 2 = 609 10 PQ=PB+BQ=\dfrac{42}{5}+\dfrac{105}{2}=\dfrac{609}{10} Since side A B AB of A B C \triangle ABC has a fixed length, its area gets maximised, when the corresponding altitude is the longest possible h max {{h}_{\max }} . Obviously, this altitude is the radius of the Apollonian circle mentioned above, i.e. h max = P Q 2 = 609 20 {{h}_{\max }}=\dfrac{PQ}{2}=\dfrac{609}{20} . Concluding, the largest area that A B C \triangle ABC can have is [ A B C ] max = 1 2 A B h max = 1 2 × 20 × 609 20 = 304.5 {{\left[ ABC \right]}_{\max }}=\dfrac{1}{2}AB\cdot {{h}_{\max }}=\dfrac{1}{2}\times 20\times \dfrac{609}{20}=\boxed{304.5}

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