Factor? How?

What is the sum of all the positive integers x x such that x 4 x 2 + 64 x^4 - x^2 + 64 is a perfect square.

This problem is a part of my set The Best of Me


The answer is 9.

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2 solutions

Daniel Liu
Jul 23, 2014

Note that for all x > 8 x > 8 , that ( x 2 1 ) 2 = x 4 2 x 2 + 1 < x 4 x 2 + 64 < x 4 = ( x 2 ) 2 (x^2-1)^2=x^4-2x^2+1 < x^4-x^2+64 < x^4 = (x^2)^2

Thus, in order for x x to be a solution, we must have 0 < x 8 0 < x \le 8 .

Checking all x = 1 8 x=1\to 8 , we see that only x = 1 , 8 x=1,8 result in x 4 x 2 + 64 x^4-x^2+64 . Thus our answer is 1 + 8 = 9 1+8=\boxed{9} .

brilliant!!!

satyendra kumar - 6 years, 10 months ago

The equation on the first paragraph. How did you thinking that equation show up in your mind? Well i don't understand how did you get it.

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 6 years, 10 months ago

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It's a well known bounding argument. If a number is always between two consecutive squares, then it can never be a square. So I looked at when exactly is the expression between two consecutive squares, and it turned out that when x > 8 x > 8 , the expression is always strictly between ( x 2 1 ) 2 (x^2-1)^2 and ( x 2 ) 2 (x^2)^2 . The rest is just checking x = 1 8 x=1\to 8 to see which ones produce squares.

Daniel Liu - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Daniel, your solution is really awesome and time saving. Just wanted to know how it clicked to you? Everyone has studied this basic property of no perfect square b/w two perfect squares in lower classes but it didn't click me..

Pankaj Joshi - 6 years, 10 months ago

"When x > 8 x>8 the expression is always strictly between ( x 2 1 ) 2 (x^{2} -1)^{2} and ( x 2 ) 2 (x^{2})^{2} ". Can you please prove it?

Mayank Verma - 6 years, 9 months ago
Nishant Sharma
Jul 12, 2014

Let x 4 x 2 + 64 = k 2 x^4-x^2+64=k^2 for some k N k\in\mathbb{N} .

x 2 = 1 + 1 4 ( 64 k 2 ) 2 \rightarrow\displaystyle\,x^2=\frac{1+\sqrt{1-4\left(64-k^2\right)}}{2} (Ruling out the negative sign since x 2 > 0 x^2>0 )

Now since x N x\in\mathbb{N} so discriminant must equal some perfect square, say n 2 n^2 for some n N n\in\mathbb{N} . Then we have

4 k 2 255 = n 2 4k^2-255=n^2

( 2 k n ) ( 2 k + n ) = 255 \rightarrow\,\left(2k-n\right)\left(2k+n\right)=255

Now since 2 k n < 2 k + n 2k-n<2k+n so we try out such factorizations of 255 255 which satisfy this, thus giving us

( 2 k n , 2 k + n ) = ( 1 , 255 ) , ( 3 , 85 ) , ( 5 , 51 ) , ( 15 , 17 ) \left(2k-n,2k+n\right)=\left(1,255\right),\left(3,85\right),\left(5,51\right),\left(15,17\right)

This yields n = 1 , 23 , 41 , 127 x 2 = 1 , 12 , 21 , 64 n=1,23,41,127\;\rightarrow\,x^2=1,12,21,64 . Since x N x\in\mathbb{N} so we rule out 12 12 and 21 21 thus giving x 2 = 1 , 64 x = 1 , 8 x^2=1,64\rightarrow\,x=1,8 .

So the required sum is 1 + 8 = 9 1+8=\boxed{9} .

I posted a possibly easier solution; you should check it out and see what I did.

Daniel Liu - 6 years, 10 months ago

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I solved it the same way as Nishant. I'm sorry, I don't understand your method too well. Could you please explain it a bit better, if it's okay?

Vedabit Saha - 6 years, 10 months ago

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