How high is the highest point ?

Calculus Level 3

An ellipse with a semi-major axis length of 20 20 units and a semi-minor axis length of 10 10 units, is to be placed in the first quadrant such that it is tangent to the x x -axis and the y y -axis and the line x = 30 x = 30 . How high (above the x x -axis) is the highest point on this ellipse ?


The answer is 33.166.

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2 solutions

Hosam Hajjir
Aug 11, 2019

The simple way to go about solving this problem is using the fact that an ellipse with semi-axes a , b a , b that is tangent to both the x x and y y axes, has its center C = ( C x , C y ) C=(C_x, C_y) satisfying

C x 2 + C y 2 = a 2 + b 2 C_x^2 + C_y^2 = a^2 + b^2

Now, from symmetry, we know that C x = 30 2 = 15 C_x = \dfrac{30}{2} = 15 , hence C y = 100 + 400 225 = 275 C_y = \sqrt{ 100 + 400 - 225 } = \sqrt{ 275 } . And using the symmetry argument again, it follows that the highest point y y -coordinate is H = 2 C y = 2 275 = 33.166 H = 2 C_y = 2 \sqrt{275} = 33.166

I didn't get symmetry. Will you elaborate?

Toshit Jain - 1 year, 4 months ago

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The center of the ellipse is the midpoint of the points with extreme x-coordinates, that is, the points with the maximum x-coordinate and the point with minimum x-coordinate.

Hosam Hajjir - 1 year, 4 months ago
Steven Chase
Aug 10, 2019

Below is a formula for a generalized 2D ellipse. The ellipse center is at ( x 0 , y 0 ) (x_0,y_0) . Its semi-major and semi-minor axis lengths are a a and b b , and the major axis is oriented at an angle θ \theta with respect to the positive x x axis.

A x 2 + B x y + C y 2 + D x + E y + F = 0 A = a 2 sin 2 θ + b 2 cos 2 θ B = 2 ( b 2 a 2 ) sin θ cos θ C = a 2 cos 2 θ + b 2 sin 2 θ D = 2 A x 0 B y 0 E = B x 0 2 C y 0 F = A x 0 2 + B x 0 y 0 + C y 0 2 a 2 b 2 A x^2 + B x y + C y^2 + D x + E y + F = 0 \\ A = a^2 \, \sin^2 \theta + b^2 \, \cos^2 \theta \\ B = 2(b^2 - a^2) \, \sin \theta \, \cos \theta \\ C = a^2 \, \cos^2 \theta + b^2 \, \sin^2 \theta \\ D = -2 A x_0 - B y_0 \\ E = -B x_0 - 2 C y_0 \\ F = A x_0^2 + B x_0 y_0 + C y_0^2 - a^2 b^2

When x = 0 x = 0 , and assuming that there is only one corresponding y y value:

C y 2 + E y + F = 0 E 2 4 C F = 0 C y^2 + E y + F = 0 \\ \implies E^2 - 4 C F = 0

When y = 0 y = 0 , and assuming that there is only one corresponding x x value:

A x 2 + D x + F = 0 D 2 4 A F = 0 A x^2 + D x + F = 0 \\ \implies D^2 - 4 A F = 0

When x = x = 30 x = x' = 30 , and assuming that there is only one corresponding y y value:

A x 2 + B x y + C y 2 + D x + E y + F = 0 ( B x + E ) 2 4 C ( A x 2 + D x + F ) = 0 A x'^2 + B x' y + C y^2 + D x' + E y + F = 0 \\ \implies (B x' + E)^2 - 4 C (A x'^2 + D x' + F) = 0

After numerical solution, the values which satisfy these equations are:

x 0 15.000 y 0 16.583 θ 49.79 7 x_0 \approx 15.000 \\ y_0 \approx 16.583 \\ \theta \approx 49.797^\circ

The highest point occurs at y 33.166 y \approx 33.166 .

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