Swapping Symbols With Minimal Difference

Algebra Level 3

A student notices that the roots of the equation x 2 + b x + a = 0 x^2+bx+a=0 are each one less than the roots of the equation x 2 + a x + b = 0 x^2+ax+b=0 .

Find the value of a + b a+b .


The answer is -4.

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Skanda Prasad
Oct 26, 2016

Relevant wiki: Vieta's Formula - Quadratics - Basic

Let p p and q q be the roots of the 1st eqn. Naturally the roots of the 2nd eqn are p + 1 p+1 and q + 1 q+1 .

Now, p q = a pq=a and p + q = b p+q=-b .

Also ( p + 1 ) ( q + 1 ) = b (p+1)(q+1)=b and p + 1 + q + 1 = a p+1+q+1=-a which means p + q + 2 = a p+q+2=-a

But we know p + q = b p+q=-b so b + 2 = a -b+2=-a Let this be as such, we'll come back to it later.

Now, ( p + 1 ) ( q + 1 ) = b (p+1)(q+1)=b \implies p q + p + q + 1 = b pq+p+q+1=b

Substituting values for p q pq and p + q p+q again here, we get a b + 1 = b a-b+1=b \implies a = 2 b 1 a=2b-1 \implies a = 1 2 b -a=1-2b

Plugging it the 'marked for review' equation, we get, b + 2 = 1 2 b -b+2=1-2b \implies b = 1 b=-1

Since a = 2 b 1 a=2b-1 we get a = 3 a=-3

Therefore, a + b = 3 1 = 4 a+b=-3-1=-4

@Skanda Prasad we really liked your comment, and have converted it into a solution.

Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Well, thanks! I never knew that it is called that Vieta formula thingy... we were just given 1 min to solve this problem in our class...this was the method I used...I really liked the problem, so I posted it here...thanks for appreciating the solution!

Skanda Prasad - 4 years, 7 months ago

Highly overrated question

abc xyz - 4 years, 7 months ago

I did it the exact same way, only forgot -2-1=-3 not -1...

Konstantin Zeis - 4 years, 7 months ago
Harish Yadav
Nov 23, 2016

Simply difference of root is same so

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