How many children does Brenda's family actually have? (I)

Algebra Level 2

When Mrs Tan was pregnant with Billy, the average age of her children was 20.

When Billy was born, their average age became 16.

How many children does Mrs Tan have with the new addition?

Note:

Many of you might consider the possibility of birthdays occurring during the pregnancy period but even then there is only ONE possible answer to this question. Can you work out what it is?


The answer is 5.

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2 solutions

Rama Devi
May 14, 2015

Noel Lo
May 7, 2015

It is natural to consider the possibility that one or more of children have their birthdays during the 9-month period but we can prove that this is impossible.

Let the required number of children (including Billy) be x x . Before Billy's birth, the total age is 20 ( x 1 ) 20(x-1) . Assuming y y out of ( x 1 ) (x-1) siblings have their birthdays during this period, the total age would go up by exactly y y years as at most one birthday can possibly happen during a period of 9 months.

This means that when Billy was born, the total age of the x x children including Billy would be 20 ( x 1 ) + y 20(x-1) + y . Since we also know that the average age of these x x children is 16 years, making the total age after Billy's birth 16 x 16x , we have 20 ( x 1 ) + y = 16 x 20(x-1)+y = 16x or y = 20 4 x y=20-4x . Note that 20 4 x 20-4x is divisible by 4 so y y should likewise be a multiple of 4. Furthermore, it only makes sense that 0 < / = y < / = ( x 1 ) 0 </=y </= (x-1) . If y < 0 y <0 , it implies that the children became younger which is absurd. Moreover, we are looking at y y out of ( x 1 ) (x-1) children. hence y y cannot possibly exceed ( x 1 ) (x-1) .

Plugging this inequality into the equation x = 20 y 4 x =\frac{20-y}{4} to get y < / = 20 y 4 1 y </=\frac{20-y}{4}-1 , what we would end up with is 5 y < / = 16 5y </= 16 . Bearing in mind that y y is a non-negative integer divisble by 4, the only possible value is 0. In other words, it is not at all possible that one of the siblings had their birthdays during the 9-month period.

Alternatively, knowing that x = 20 y 4 x =\frac{20-y}{4} , if we were to try the smallest positive multiple of 4 (i.e. y = 4 y=4 ), we have x = 20 4 4 = 16 4 = 4 x = \frac{20-4}{4} = \frac{16}{4} = 4 but we realise that y = 4 y = 4 while x 1 = 3 x-1 = 3 which does not make sense as y > x 1 y> x-1 . Since x x is a decreasing function on y y , larger multiples of 4 for y y would result in an even smaller x x so it is clear that for larger multiples of 4, y > x 1 y>x-1 . as well. Moreover, since y y is non-negative, y = 0 y=0 .

Since y = 0 y=0 , we now have 20 ( x 1 ) = 16 x 20(x-1) = 16x

20 x 20 = 16 x 20x - 20 = 16x

4 x = 20 4x = 20

x = 5 x=\boxed{5}

I should have gotten this correct. Did too much of the work in my head. Nice question. I'm enjoying your posts also. Maybe make a set out of your logic questions?

michael bye - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Hello Michael,

Thank you soooo much for your encouraging words!!! :) Yes, I have made a few sets out of my logic questions. Basically, there are I think 4 sets? Namely Einstein's riddles, puzzles, grid puzzles and which of the siblings! Do check them out! My latest post is a modified version of Einstein's riddle entitled Á Singaporean family having more kids to reverse low fertility rates.''. I am not too sure whether you have seen it.

I also saw that you solved the original version of Einstein's riddle so if you are interested, do have a go at my version!

Noel Lo - 5 years, 11 months ago

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