The Hyperloop is a hypothetical new fast transport system between cities, which works by launching pods that carry people through a very low air pressure tunnel. The drag force on the 1 5 0 0 0 kg Hyperloop pod traveling at approximately 3 0 0 m/s is 3 2 0 N . If the drag force follows the usual law of F d = C v 2 , where C is a constant and v is the velocity, then how long would it take in seconds for the Hyperloop pod to slow down to 1 5 0 m/s ?
Note: it's a pretty long time, which gives you an idea of why the Hyperloop is pretty energy efficient.
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Really good solution, well done bud.
None of the above was required. See my solution. ;)
We first find the value of the constant C : C = v 2 F d = 3 0 0 2 3 2 0 = 3 . 5 5 6 × 1 0 − 3 k g m − 1 s − 4
Note that F d = m a = m d t d v . Now to find the time, we will solve the differential equation: m d t d v = − C v 2 m v 2 d v = − C d t m ∫ 3 0 0 1 5 0 v 2 1 d v = − ∫ 0 T C d t m ( v − 1 ∣ ∣ ∣ ∣ 3 0 0 1 5 0 ) = − C T m ( 1 5 0 − 1 + 3 0 0 1 ) = − C T T = C m ( 3 0 0 1 ) = 3 . 5 5 6 × 1 0 − 3 1 5 0 0 0 ( 3 0 0 1 ) = 1 4 0 6 0 s
Clearest solution, I suppose! Yay!
We solve for C by manipulating F d = C v 2 to get C = v 0 2 F 1 . We keep in mind that this will be negative as F 1 is a resistive force. Next, we attempt to find the acceleration: m a = C v 2 . We rewrite as m v ˙ = C v 2 and separating variables, we have m v 2 d v = C d t . Integrating, we get − v m = C t + k , where k is the constant of integration. We plug in t=0 and find that k = − v 0 m , and v 0 m − v m = C t . Solving for t, we find that t = C v 0 m − v m = 1 4 0 6 2 . 5 .
First, we can find the value of constant C:
3 2 0 = C × 9 ⋅ 1 0 4 ↔ C = 9 3 2 ⋅ 1 0 − 3 ⋅ m k g
Now we can find the expression of the aceleration as a function of the speed:
F = 9 3 2 ⋅ 1 0 − 3 × v 2 = 1 5 ⋅ 1 0 3 × ( − a )
a = 1 3 5 − 3 2 ⋅ 1 0 − 6 × v 2
Now, we can integrate the expression of the instant velocity, defined at the intervals [ 0 , t ] and [ v 0 , v ] :
d v = a × d t
d t = a d v ↔ ∫ 0 t d t = ∫ v 0 v a d v
t = 3 2 − 1 3 5 ⋅ 1 0 6 ⋅ ∫ v 0 v v 2 d v = 3 2 − 1 3 5 ⋅ 1 0 6 ⋅ ( v − 1 + v 0 1 )
Solving for v 0 = 3 0 0 m / s and v = 1 5 0 m / s we find:
t ≅ 1 4 0 6 0 s
To find the amount of time it takes to decelerate, t , we need to find the deceleration magnitude a . Then, if the speed is v , we would have v = a t ⟹ t = a v . But, from Newton's Second Law, a = m F d . Thus: t = a v = m F d v , where m is the mass. We have t = F d v m , so we have all that we need.
Substitute F d = 3 2 0 N , v = 3 0 0 m/s and m = 1 5 0 0 0 kg to get t = 1 . 4 1 × 1 0 4 s . Remark : Note that the formula for drag force was not required.
Your method...
Assumes constant drag force of 320N all the way, which is wrong...
Looks for when the final velocity is 0, which is also wrong...
... but it seems two wrongs can actually make a right!
A comment on why this worked - it is a bit of a coincidence, but not as much as you might think. How many ways can you combine the given dimensionful quantities to get a time? And remember, v f is not an independent dimensionful quantity, it's v 0 / 2 . What then is the only thing that can go wrong?
I disagree. You never used the final velocity! It seems odd that the time required to slow down to v f would be independent of v f . Your solution just happens to work out in the special case v f = 2 1 v 0 . The equation v = a t is valid only for constant acceleration.
I think it is just a coincidence that you get the correct answer using this method. Acceleration of the pod is not constant in this question.
You are really lucky as this worked out.
Very odd.. I did it through a rather laborious process of integrating e.t.c to get the above answer. The force is not constant so how do your above equations apply? I can see there is something interesting about the acceleration being proportional to kinetic energy which means that it might not be coincidence inputting your numbers yields a correct answer. Can you explain this or have you just got lucky here by applying constant acceleration equations?
The sum of the forces equals the acceleration, in this case there is only one force so we get the next differential equation : M d t d v = − C v 2 . We use separation of variables : C M ∫ v 2 d v = − t + C 1 ⟹ v ( t ) = C t + C 1 M . Now, we have : C = 3 0 0 2 3 5 0 , and from the initial conditions we get : v ( 0 ) = 3 0 0 ⟺ C 1 M = 3 0 0 ⟹ C 1 = 5 0 . Now : v ( t ) = 1 5 0 ⟹ t = 1 5 0 C M − 1 5 0 C 1 = 2 2 8 1 2 5 = 1 4 0 6 2 . 5 .
First we find C.
3 2 0 = C × 3 0 0 2 C = 1 1 2 5 4
We know that F = m a = − C v 2 .
Substituting constants and rewriting a and v as x-derivatives,
1 5 0 0 0 x ′ ′ ( t ) = − 1 1 2 5 4 x ′ ( t ) 2
The solution to this is:
x ( t ) = 4 2 1 8 7 5 0 lo g ( t − 4 2 1 8 7 5 0 c 1 ) + c 2
Initial conditions at t = 0 are x = 0 and v = 3 0 0 . Substituting and solving for unknown constants give:
c 1 = − 3 0 0 1 c 2 = − 4 2 1 8 7 5 0 lo g ( 2 2 8 1 2 5 ) x ( t ) = 4 2 1 8 7 5 0 lo g ( 2 8 1 2 5 2 t + 1 ) x ′ ( t ) = 2 8 1 2 5 2 t + 1 3 0 0
We are searching for t when v = 1 5 0 :
v = x ′ ( t ) = 2 8 1 2 5 2 t + 1 3 0 0 = 1 5 0 t = 1 4 0 6 2 . 5
c=320/〖300〗^2 , c
v^2=ma, c
v^2=m
(dv/dt), C/m
dt=dv/v^2
∫
(t
1)^(t
2)▒〖C/m*dt〗=∫
300^150▒dv/v^2
thats all :D.
The first information about the f=cv^2 for finding the constant c. Hence putting the appropriate values i.e f=320 and v = 300, we find "c". Next using the assumption m.dv/dt=cv^2 as drag is the only force acting on the system. On further solving, we get m.dv/v^2 = c.dt. On integrating and putting the limit of 'v' from 300 to 150, we get the appropriate answer that is 14062.5 sec.
mass m=15000 kg drag force when pod travelling at 300 m/s=320 N since, d r a g f o r c e = C v 2 so, C v 2 = 3 2 0 at v=300 from above equation we can find the value of constant C. now from calculus a = d t d v , putting a = m ( C v 2 ) and solving the differential equation with constrains we get the required answer.
F=Cv^2 So to find C, the initial conditions of F=320N when v=300m/s can be used, giving C to be about 3.56*10^-3 .
Now this force is the only force on the pod, so is also the net force. {F(net)=ma=m(dv/dt)=-Cv^2} resulting in {- v^(-2) dv = C/m dt}
integrating between 300 and 150 for the velocity, and 0 and T for time: C/m T = 1/150 -1/300
Substituting in the C and m values:
yielding T=1.4*10^4 s
First we solve for the constant C . We're given F d = 3 2 0 when v = 3 0 0 . Plugging into the drag force equation leads to 3 2 0 = C × 3 0 0 2 , yielding C = 1 1 2 5 4 .
Next, we write the equations of motion for the system (plugging F d = C v 2 into F = m a ): d t d v = m C v 2 The solution is v 2 1 d v ∫ v 2 1 d v − v 1 = m C d t = ∫ m C d t = m C t + C v where C v is the constant of integration. We use this equation for the remaining calcuations. Plugging in the given initial conditions ( t = 0 , v = 3 0 0 ) reveals that C v = − 3 0 0 1 . And finally solving for the unknown t at the desired velocity v = 1 5 0 using our newly found C v shows that: t = 2 2 8 1 2 5 Which is 14062.5 in decimal.
From Newtons Second Law, F = d t d p = m d t d v . We also have F = C v 2 .
We can determine the value of C to be C = v 2 F d
Equating these expressions for the force on the pod, we get m d t d v = C v 2 , which is a separable ODE in v and t . Solving this equation for t yields t = C m ⋅ v − 1 + A , where A is arbitrary. Setting A = 0 and plugging in the values for v and C we get t = 1 4 0 6 0 . 5 s
Acceleration = d t d v = m F
3 2 0 N = C v 2
C = ( 3 0 0 m / s ) 2 3 2 0 N
Now we equate acceleration to drag force, and C v 2 is negative here because the force is applied in the direction opposite to motion, whose direction we are taking to be positive.
d t d v = − C v 2
− C v 2 1 d v = m 1 d t
C v 1 = m t + c
t + c = C v m
Subbing in the initial values of 300m/s at 0s and the values of C and m,
c = ( 3 0 0 m / s ) 2 3 2 0 N × 3 0 0 m / s 1 5 0 0 0 k g = 1 4 , 0 6 2 . 5 s
Now plugging in values to the equation we have,
1 4 , 0 6 2 . 5 s + t = 1 5 0 C 1 5 0 0 0 k g
t = 1 4 , 0 6 2 . 5 s = 1 4 , 1 0 0 s ( 3 s f )
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m = 1 5 0 0 0 k g is the pod's mass. v 0 = 3 0 0 s m is the pod's initial velocity. v f = 1 5 0 s m is the pod's final velocity. F 0 = 3 2 0 N is the drag force on the pod at v = v 0 .
We can find the constant C in F d = C v 2 by setting F d = F 0 and v = v 0 , which gives C = v 0 2 F 0 . So the force on the pod is $$F= -F d=-\frac{F 0 v^2}{v 0^2}.$$ By Newton's Second Law, we have $$a=\frac{F}{m}.$$ Substituting in for F and noting that a = d t d v , we get $$\frac{dv}{dt}=-\frac{F 0 v^2}{v 0^2 m}.$$ This is a separable differential equation, so separating variables and integrating gives us $$\int \frac{1}{v^2}dv=\int \frac{-F 0}{v 0^2 m}dt$$ $$\frac{-1}{v} = \frac{-F 0}{v 0^2 m}t + k,$$ where k is the constant of integration. Plugging in the initial condition of v ( 0 ) = v 0 gives $$k=\frac{-1}{v 0}.$$ So we have $$\frac{1}{v} = \frac{F 0}{v 0^2 m}t + \frac{1}{v 0}.$$ Now, plugging in v = v f and solving for t gives $$t=\left(\frac{1}{v f}-\frac{1}{v 0}\right)\left(\frac{v 0^2 m}{F_0}\right)$$ Plugging in the values given, we get $$t=\left(\frac{1}{150 \ \mathrm{\frac{m}{s}}}-\frac{1}{300 \ \mathrm{\frac{m}{s}}}\right)\left(\frac{(300 \ \mathrm{\frac{m}{s}})^2 (15 \ 000 \ \mathrm{kg})}{320 \ \mathrm{N}}\right)$$ $$=\fbox{14 062.5 s}$$