Hypothetical Current Distribution

Suppose we have a rod of length L L with a total electrical resistance R R , distributed uniformly along its length. A constant voltage V V is applied across the two ends of the rod. Let x = 0 x = 0 be the position of one end of the rod, and let x = L x = L be the position of the other end.

Consider the following two current distributions:

I 1 ( x ) = V R I 2 ( x ) = a x I_1(x) = \frac{V}{R} \\ I_2(x) = a x

I 1 ( x ) I_1(x) is the actual physical current distribution, and I 2 ( x ) I_2(x) is a hypothetical non-physical current distribution. For the hypothetical distribution, the parameter a a is such that the sum of the infinitesimal voltage changes along the rod equals the total applied voltage V V .

If P 1 P_1 and P 2 P_2 are the amounts of power dissipated over the entire rod in the two cases, what is the ratio of P 2 P_2 to P 1 P_1 ?

Note: Based on this result, what might we hypothesize, physically?


The answer is 1.333.

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Steven Chase
Jul 17, 2019

There are already some good solutions posted for this, so I will attempt to prove (for a one-dimensional conductor) that a constant-current distribution minimizes the power dissipated (given voltage constraints).

Suppose we discretize the conductor into N N constant-current segments. N N can be made arbitrarily large. For each segment, the current is I k I_k and the resistance is Δ R \Delta R . We want to minimize the total dissipated power, subject to the constraint that the sum of infinitesimal voltage changes must equal the applied voltage V V . We can use the method of Lagrange multipliers with the following Lagrangian:

L = Σ k = 1 k = N I k 2 Δ R + λ ( ( Σ k = 1 k = N I k Δ R ) V ) L = \Sigma_{k=1}^{k=N} I_{k} ^2 \, \Delta R + \lambda \Big ((\Sigma_{k=1}^{k=N} I_{k} \, \Delta R) - V \Big)

Taking partial derivatives with respect to the segment-specific currents and setting to zero (per standard practice) results in:

L I 1 = 2 I 1 Δ R + λ Δ R = 0 I 1 = λ 2 L I 2 = 2 I 2 Δ R + λ Δ R = 0 I 2 = λ 2 e t c . I 1 = I 2 = I k \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{I_{1}}} = 2 \, I_{1} \, \Delta R + \lambda \, \Delta R = 0 \implies I_{1} = -\frac{\lambda}{2} \\ \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{I_{2}}} = 2 \, I_{2} \, \Delta R + \lambda \, \Delta R = 0 \implies I_{2} = -\frac{\lambda}{2} \\ etc. \\ \implies I_{1} = I_{2} = I_{k} \\

Thus, a constant-current profile minimizes the power dissipation, given voltage constraints. It is interesting to note that nature seems to follow this minimization principle. Although I am now wondering how this works in circuits for which the electrical wavelength is small compared to the size of the circuit, resulting in spatial variation in the current.

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Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Karan Chatrath
Jul 17, 2019

P 1 = V 2 R P_1 = \frac{V^2}{R}

Consider the hypothetical current distribution and an elementary length of wire d x dx . The resistance of this wire element is d R = R L d x dR = \frac{R}{L}dx

The potential difference across this element according to Ohm's law is:

d V = I 2 ( x ) d R dV = I_2(x)dR

Integrating over the length of the wire leads to:

V = a L R 2 V = \frac{aLR}{2}

The power dissipated in the wire element is:

d P 2 = ( I 2 ( x ) ) 2 d R dP_2 = (I_2(x))^2 dR

Integrating this over the length of the wire gives:

P 2 = a L 2 R 3 P_2 = \frac{aL^2R}{3}

Using the relation V = a L R 2 V = \frac{aLR}{2} , this simplifies to:

P 2 = 4 3 V 2 R = 4 3 P 1 P_2 = \frac{4}{3}\frac{V^2}{R} = \frac{4}{3}P_1

This is the conclusion I arrive at. Correct me if I am wrong:

Among all current distributions, considering Ohm's law, the actual current distribution corresponds to the case where a minimum amount of power is dissipated in the resistor. However, I have not tested this with another current distribution.

This is kind-of, sort-of a case where the physical configuration corresponds to some kind of least action. Not in the strict sense, probably

Indeed, the physical current distribution minimizes the power dissipated, subject to the voltage constraint. I'm pretty sure the path discretization plus Lagrange multiplier approach can be used to "prove" that, too (for at least the 1D case).

Steven Chase - 1 year, 11 months ago

I was indeed just looking into such a minimization problem.

Consider an arbitrary current distribution I ( x ) = I I(x)=I . The problem is to minimize the integral:

0 L I 2 R L d x = F \int_{0}^{L}\frac{I^2R}{L}dx = F subject to the constraint:

0 L I R L d x = V \int_{0}^{L}\frac{IR}{L}dx = V

Constructing the Lagrangian for this problem gives:

L = F + λ V L = F + \lambda V

As per the calculus of variations, this Lagrangian can be minimised when the Euler-Lagrange equation is satisfied. In other words, L x = 0 \frac{\partial L}{\partial x} = 0

Which simplifies to: I x = 0 \frac{\partial I}{\partial x} = 0 and therefore: I = c o n s t a n t I = constant

Karan Chatrath - 1 year, 11 months ago

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I recall your discretized derivation of Newton's first law by applying the least action principle. An approach on those lines can also be thought of here

Karan Chatrath - 1 year, 11 months ago

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Yes, I see that you have derived it similarly. So now I wonder about circuits for which the applied electrical wavelength is small relative to the size of the circuit (microwave circuits, for example). In such a case, we have spatial variation in the current. Anyway, I'll have to sign off for now. Bed time.

Steven Chase - 1 year, 11 months ago

Using Ohm's law, we can easily get a= 2 V L R \dfrac{2V}{LR} . Using the definition of power, integrating over the length of the rod, we get P 2 P_2 = 4 V 2 3 R \dfrac{4V^2}{3R} . Hence the ratio is 4 : 3

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