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Algebra Level 4

Let the real positive solution of

x 2 + ( x x + 1 ) 2 = 1 x^{2} + \left(\frac{x}{x+1}\right)^{2} = 1

be α \alpha . Find the value of 10000 α \lfloor 10000 \alpha \rfloor .


The answer is 8832.

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8 solutions

Qi Huan Tan
Oct 23, 2014

Let y = x + 1 y=x+1 . x = y 1 x=y-1 . Substituting and expanding, we get

y 2 + 1 y 2 2 ( y + 1 y ) + 1 = 0 y^2+\frac{1}{y^2}-2(y+\frac{1}{y})+1=0 .

Let z = y + 1 y z=y+\frac{1}{y} .

y 2 + 1 y 2 = z 2 2 y^2+\frac{1}{y^2}=z^2-2 .

Therefore, z 2 2 z 1 = 0 z^2-2z-1=0 .

Solving the quadratic equation, we get all possibilities of z z . By using the equation z = y + 1 y z=y+\frac{1}{y} , we can find all possibilities of y y . The value of x x which satisfy the conditions in the problem can be determined by the equation x = y 1 x=y-1 .

Wow, using several substitution to solve x 4 + 2 x 3 + x 2 2 x 1 = 0 x^4 + 2x^3 + x^2 - 2x - 1 = 0 .

Could you help add to the Algebraic Manipulation - Substitution page?

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 7 months ago

Good solution

dhiraj agarwalla - 6 years, 7 months ago

Wow you're really dare to expand. Nice substitution!

Samuraiwarm Tsunayoshi - 6 years, 7 months ago

Very nice solution

alok poonia - 6 years, 7 months ago
Ronak Agarwal
Oct 24, 2014

Let x = c o s ( θ ) x=cos(\theta) and x x + 1 = s i n ( θ ) \frac{x}{x+1}=sin(\theta) , hence we get our eqaution as :

c o s ( θ ) c o s ( θ ) + 1 = s i n ( θ ) \frac{cos(\theta)}{cos(\theta)+1}=sin(\theta)

Rewriting it we get :

c o s ( θ ) s i n ( θ ) = c o s ( θ ) s i n ( θ ) cos(\theta)-sin(\theta)=cos(\theta)sin(\theta)

Again rewriting it we get :

2 s i n ( π 4 θ ) = 1 2 c o s ( π 2 2 θ ) \sqrt{2}sin(\frac{\pi}{4}-\theta )=\frac{1}{2}cos(\frac{\pi}{2}-2\theta )

Put y = π 4 θ y=\frac{\pi}{4}-\theta to get the equation as :

2 2 s i n ( y ) = c o s ( 2 y ) 2\sqrt{2}sin(y)=cos(2y)

Using double angle identities and rewriting the equation we get :

2 s i n 2 ( y ) + 2 2 s i n ( y ) 1 = 0 2{sin}^{2}(y)+2\sqrt{2}sin(y)-1=0

Solving the quadratic we get :

s i n ( y ) = 1 1 2 sin(y)=1-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} and c o s ( y ) = 2 1 2 cos(y)=\sqrt{\sqrt{2}-\frac{1}{2}}

Now since θ = π 4 y \theta=\frac{\pi}{4}-y

hence c o s ( θ ) = c o s ( π 4 y ) = 1 2 ( c o s ( y ) + s i n ( y ) ) cos(\theta)=cos(\frac{\pi}{4}-y)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(cos(y)+sin(y))

Put the values to get :

x = c o s ( θ ) = 1 1 2 + 2 1 2 2 \large x=cos(\theta)=\frac{1-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\sqrt{\sqrt{2}-\frac{1}{2}}}{\sqrt{2}}

Same way as I did it.. You need to include the reasoning of why the substitution is legal in your solution though

Pratik Shastri - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Isn't it very obvious.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Still, I think it is necessary..your choice though :)

Pratik Shastri - 6 years, 7 months ago

I think we must not substitute sinx =x/(x+1)and cosx = x as this does not satisfy the basic condition I.e. Sin^2x +Cos^2x =1 for every value of x . Yes I also agree that the expression is like that only . But logically we can't substitute this for that reason.

Mohit Kuri - 6 years, 7 months ago

Yeah . Got it ronak . Please don't explain acc. To me . But truly a good meathod it is.

Mohit Kuri - 6 years, 7 months ago

My professor taught me this technique when you have no other simple ways to do it, other than expanding.

Let y = x x + 1 \displaystyle y = \frac{x}{x+1} .

The equation becomes x 2 + y 2 = 1 x^{2} + y^{2} = 1 _(1)

and x y = x y xy = x-y . _(2)

Let x , y \large x, -y be the roots of this equation

z 2 + p z + q = 0 z^{2} + pz + q = 0 _(#)

From Vieta's formula, x + ( y ) = p x+(-y) = -p and x ( y ) = q x(-y) = q .

From (2), p = x y = x y = q -p = x-y = xy = -q

Therefore, p = q p = q .

From (1), x 2 + y 2 = ( x y ) 2 + 2 x y x^{2} + y^{2} = (x-y)^{2} + 2xy

1 = ( p ) 2 + 2 ( q ) 1 = (-p)^{2}+2(-q)

p 2 2 p 1 = 0 p^{2}-2p-1 = 0

p = 1 ± 2 p = 1 \pm \sqrt{2}

Now the equation (#) becomes

z 2 + ( 1 + 2 ) z + ( 1 + 2 ) = 0 z^{2} + (1+\sqrt{2})z + (1+\sqrt{2}) = 0 or z 2 + ( 1 2 ) z + ( 1 2 ) = 0 z^{2} + (1-\sqrt{2})z + (1-\sqrt{2}) = 0

The first equation gives you 2 complex roots and the second gives you 2 irrational roots. So don't bother factorize the question lol.

Solve both equations we get

z = ( 1 + 2 ) ± i 1 + 2 2 2 , 2 + 2 ± 1 + 2 2 2 \boxed{\displaystyle z = \frac{-(1+\sqrt{2})\pm i\sqrt{1+2\sqrt{2}}}{2}, \frac{2+\sqrt{2}\pm \sqrt{1+2\sqrt{2}}}{2}} .

And all of these roots z z are the roots of x x .

Which is approximately x = 0.46899 , 0.88320 , 1.2071 ± 0.9783 i x = -0.46899, 0.88320, -1.2071\pm 0.9783i .

Feel free to post your solution!

Samuraiwarm Tsunayoshi - 6 years, 7 months ago

Nice approach, forming a quadratic equation with roots of x x and x x + 1 \frac{ x}{ x+1 } .

Can you add to the Vieta's Formula - Forming quadratics Wiki page? This approach can be really useful in such a scenario.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 7 months ago

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I feel like there're easy problems, and suddenly very hard problem. =_="

Samuraiwarm Tsunayoshi - 6 years, 7 months ago
Aneesh Kundu
Oct 26, 2014

The given equation can be re-written as ( 1 x ) 2 + ( 1 + 1 x ) 2 = 1 \left(\dfrac{1}{x}\right)^{-2}+\left(1+\dfrac{1}{x}\right)^{-2}=1 Make the substitution 1 x = a \dfrac{1}{x}=a a 2 + ( 1 + a ) 2 = 1 a^{-2}+(1+a)^{-2}=1 1 a 2 + 1 ( a + 1 ) 2 = 1 \Rightarrow \dfrac{1}{a^2}+\dfrac{1}{(a+1)^2}=1 a 2 + 2 a + 1 + a 2 ( a 2 + a ) 2 = 1 \Rightarrow \dfrac{a^2+2a+1+a^2}{(a^2+a)^2}=1 2 ( a 2 + a ) + 1 ( a 2 + a ) 2 = 1 \Rightarrow \dfrac{2(a^2+a)+1}{(a^2+a)^2}=1 Make the subsitution a 2 + a = y a^2+a=y 2 y + 1 y 2 = 1 \dfrac{2y+1}{y^2}=1 y 2 2 y 1 = 0 y^2-2y-1=0 y 2 2 y + 1 = 2 y^2-2y+1=2 ( y 1 ) 2 = 2 (y-1)^2=2 y = 1 ± 2 y=1\pm\sqrt{2} substituting back to a a a 2 + a ( 1 ± 2 ) = 0 a^2+a-(1\pm\sqrt{2})=0 Solving the above quadratic we get real roots with only 1 + 2 1+\sqrt{2} a = 5 + 4 2 1 2 , ( 5 + 4 2 + 1 ) 2 a=\dfrac{\sqrt{5+4\sqrt{2}}-1}{2}, \dfrac{-(\sqrt{5+4\sqrt{2}}+1)}{2} The second one is a negative, so we consider only the first root Substituting back to x, we get x = 2 5 + 4 2 1 x=\dfrac{2}{\sqrt{5+4\sqrt{2}}-1} Plugging the value of x x gives the desired result.

Potsawee Manakul
Jul 8, 2015

Using The Newton-Raphson Method x 4 + 2 x 3 + x 2 2 x 1 = 0 x^{4}+2x^{3}+x^{2}-2x-1=0 Let f ( x ) = x 4 + 2 x 3 + x 2 2 x 1 f(x)=x^{4}+2x^{3}+x^{2}-2x-1 f ( x ) = 4 x 3 + 6 x 2 + 2 x 2 f'(x)=4x^{3}+6x^{2}+2x^-2 Therefore, x n + 1 = x n x n 4 + 2 x n 3 + x n 2 2 x n 1 4 x n 3 + 6 x n 2 + 2 x n 2 x_{n+1}=x_{n}-\frac{x_{n}^{4}+2x_{n}^{3}+x_{n}^{2}-2x_{n}-1}{4x_{n}^{3}+6x_{n}^{2}+2x_{n}-2} Substitute x 1 x_{1} equal to any number which is more than 1 and it will converge to the real positive solution

x 2 + y 2 = ( x y ) 2 + 2 x y x^{2} +y^{2}=(x-y)^{2}+2xy

so,

x 2 + ( x / ( x + 1 ) ) 2 = 1 x^{2}+(x/(x+1))^{2}=1

becomes,

( x 2 / ( x + 1 ) ) 2 + ( 2 x 2 / ( x + 1 ) ) 1 = 0 (x^{2}/(x+1))^{2}+(2x^{2}/(x+1))-1=0

let

z = ( x 2 ) / ( x + 1 ) z=(x^{2})/(x+1)

Then solve the quadratic equationS to get the answer!

Peter Macgregor
Oct 24, 2014

Rewrite the equation as

x = 1 ( x x + 1 ) 2 x=\sqrt{1-(\frac{x}{x+1})^2}

Iterating this converges quickly to the positive root.

You can implement this quickly on a calculator by first entering a starting value by pressing (say) 0.5=, then entering

1 ( A n s A n s + 1 ) 2 \sqrt{1-(\frac{Ans}{Ans+1})^2}

and pressing equals repeatedly.

What are the conditions under which this will converge to the positive root?

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 7 months ago

Complete the square using minus instead of plus. It's counterintuitive, but the equation will become really beautiful. Call t=x^2/(x+1).

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