I won't possibly throw like that, would I?

Ball A A of mass 1 kg 1\text{ kg} is thrown at an angle of 45 {45}^\circ with the horizontal with kinetic energy 50 J 50\text{ J} such that it hits ball B B of the same mass placed on the top of a pole. In this collision, half of the kinetic energy of ball A A at that instant is transferred to ball B , B, causing ball B B to move in a forward direction. If it is known that the height at which ball B B was placed is the maximum height that the initial projectile of ball A A would have traveled, then find the distance of the final position of ball B B from the foot of the pole.

The figure below would help in understanding the situation:

Details and Assumptions:

  • Ball B B does not rebound after hitting the ground.
  • Air friction is negligible.
  • Take g = 10 m/s 2 g=10\text{ m/s}^2 as the acceleration due to gravity.
  • Give your answer (in m \text{m} ) to two decimal places.


The answer is 3.54.

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1 solution

Ashish Menon
Jul 9, 2016

Kinetic energy of ball A = 50 J 50J .
Now,
K.E. = 1 2 mv 2 50 = 1 2 × 1 × v 2 v 2 = 100 v = 10 m/s \begin{aligned} \text{K.E.} & = \dfrac{1}{2} {\text{mv}}^2\\ 50 & = \dfrac{1}{2} × 1 × {\text{v}}^2\\ {\text{v}}^2 & = 100\\ \text{v} & = 10\text{m/s} \end{aligned}

At the maximum point of trajectory, the vertical component of velocity of ball A becomes zero and what remains is the horizontal component of ball A which is given by v cos θ = 10 cos 45 ° = 10 2 \text{v}\cos\theta = 10\cos{45}^° = \dfrac{10}{\sqrt{2}} .

Kinetic energy at this point = 1 2 mv 2 cos 2 θ = 1 2 × 1 × 100 2 = 25 J \dfrac{1}{2}{\text{mv}}^2{\cos}^2\theta\\ \\ = \dfrac{1}{2}×1×\dfrac{100}{2}\\ \\ = 25\text{J}

So, kinetic energy obtained by ball B = 25 2 \dfrac{25}{2} . (Ball B obtains half the kinetic energy of ball A).
Again using the formula,
K.E. = 1 2 mv 2 25 2 = 1 2 × 1 × v 2 v 2 = 25 v = 5 m/s \begin{aligned} \text{K.E.} & = \dfrac{1}{2} {\text{mv}}^2\\ \dfrac{25}{2} & = \dfrac{1}{2}×1×{\text{v}}^2\\ {\text{v}}^2 & = 25\\ \text{v} & = 5\text{m/s}\ \end{aligned} .

The height of the pole is the maximum height of trajectory of ball A which is given by v 2 sin 2 θ 2 g = 100 2 × 10 × 1 2 = 2.5 m \dfrac{{\text{v}}^2{\sin}^2\theta}{2\text{g}}\\ \\ = \dfrac{100}{2×10} × \dfrac{1}{2}\\ \\ = 2.5\text{m}

Since ball B is falling from a height, range of its projectile is given by u 2 h g = 5 2 × 2.5 10 = 5 1 2 = 5 2 3.54 m u\sqrt{\dfrac{2h}{g}}\\ \\ = 5\sqrt{\dfrac{2×2.5}{10}}\\ \\ = 5\sqrt{\dfrac{1}{2}}\\ \\ = \dfrac{5}{\sqrt{2}}\\ \\ \approx \color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{3.54\text{m}}}

This is a fantastic problem. Simple and yet challenging

Hung Woei Neoh - 4 years, 11 months ago

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Thanks! :) :)

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 11 months ago

I missed the answer, but would like to give my method below.
Since the angle is 45 degrees, Sin45=Cos45, and the Vertical and Horizontal velocities, and so K.E. in these directions will also be equal.
H o r i z o n t a l d i r e c t i o n h , V e r t i c a l d i r e c t i o n v . B e f o r e c o l l i s i o n K E A h = 1 2 50 = 25 J = 1 2 m V A h 2 = 1 2 V A h 2 . V A h = 5 2 m / s A l s o t h e h e i g h t h r e a c h e d i s , h = K E A h m g = 25 10 = 2.5 m . K E B h = 1 2 25 = 1 2 m V 2 = 1 2 , V B 2 . V B = 5 m / s . T i m e t t o r e a c h t h e h e i g h t 2.5 = 1 2 g t 2 t = 1 2 s . D i s t a n c e B m o v e s = V B t = 5 2 = 3.5355. Horizontal\ direction\ \ _h, \ \ \ Vertical\ direction\ \ _v.\\ Before\ collision\ KE_{Ah} = \frac 1 2*50=25J=\frac 1 2 *m*V_{Ah}^2=\frac 1 2 * V_{Ah}^2.\\ \therefore \ V_{Ah}=5*\sqrt2\ m/s\ \ \\ Also\ the\ height\ h \ reached\ is,\ h=\dfrac{ KE_{Ah}} {m*g}=\dfrac {25}{ 10}=2.5m. \\ \ \ \ \\ KE_{Bh}=\frac 1 2*25=\frac1 2*m*V^2=\frac 1 2*, V_B^2. \ \ \ \ \ \ \therefore\ V_B=5\ m/s.\\ Time\ t\ to\ reach \ the\ height\ 2.5 = \frac 1 2*g*t^2 \ \ \ \ \ \therefore\ t=\dfrac 1 {\sqrt2}\ s.\\ \therefore\ \ Distance\ B\ \ moves\ \ =V_B*t=\dfrac 5 {\sqrt2}=3.5355. \\\ \ \ \\
Note:- After collision, KE is half, half. Momentum before and after is NOT the same.

Niranjan Khanderia - 4 years, 11 months ago

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Hmm. Purely vector solution, nice one!

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 11 months ago

I've done exactly the same way. Can this problem be solved in other ways?

Ritu Roy - 4 years, 11 months ago

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Yh maybe, but i dont see any other nice way.

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 11 months ago

Same solution

Vignesh S - 4 years, 11 months ago

i don't think it deserved to be at level 3 just a problem of level 1. wasted my time

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 11 months ago

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Well, it takes so much time to come up with such a problem. Atleast i am contributing. Happy to see it got 8 likes. Well, criticisms are a part of it. :) Talking about the level, it automatically changes with the number of people solving it right, you dont need to worry about it.

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 11 months ago

Is'nt this question is overated!!

kritarth lohomi - 4 years, 10 months ago

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u should read my comment at that time this was level 3....

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 10 months ago

kinetic not kibetic but otherwise great solution!

Terry Smith - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Hehe thanks for mentioning the spelling mistake :)

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 10 months ago

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