Inradius of a regular Octahedron

Geometry Level 3

A sphere is inscribed in a regular octahedron.

What is the ratio of the sphere’s radius to the octahedron’s edge length?

1 6 \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{6}} 1 3 \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{3}} 1 2 \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}} 2 3 \sqrt{\dfrac{2}{3}} 2 3 \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{3}}

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9 solutions

Marta Reece
May 11, 2018

Triangle A B C ABC , where A A is a vertex, B B is a mid-point of a side, and C C the center of the octahedron, has a right angle at C C and sides C B = 1 2 CB=\frac12 and A B = 3 2 AB=\frac{\sqrt3}2 .

Point of contact between the sphere and the octahedron, D D is in the center of the face, therefore the median A B AB is divided in the ration of 2 : 1 2:1 making D B = 1 3 A B = 1 2 3 DB=\frac13\cdot AB=\frac1{2\sqrt3} .

Triangle C B D CBD has a right angle at D D , so C D = C B 2 D B 2 = 1 4 1 12 = 1 6 CD=\sqrt{CB^2-DB^2}=\sqrt{\frac14-\frac1{12}}=\boxed{\frac1{\sqrt6}} .

I'm a bit of a noob but why would DB not just be half of AB which is as it is stated above

Adam Cuva - 3 years ago

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D is in the center of a equilateral triangle.

D C A D = B D A D = s i n ( 3 0 ) = 1 2 \frac{DC}{AD}=\frac{BD}{AD}=sin(30^\circ)=\frac12

This means A D = 2 D C AD=2\cdot DC

Marta Reece - 3 years ago

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Thank you for the explanation

Adam Cuva - 3 years ago

Is there any quiz to give the formal definition of an octahedron and it's properties as I do not know what the question is (I thought an octahedron was a polyhedron and do not know what an edge length is)

Affan Morshed - 3 years ago

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The edge length was not given, but since we are only interested in ratio of distances, we can pick whatever value we want for the edge length (it will cancel if called say x x ). Usually the thing to do is make it equal to 1 1 .

When you need to check definitions, Googling them is a good way to go about it. In this case, octahedron is a polyhedron with eight sides, each an equilateral triangle. The image provided is a good in showing its look.

Marta Reece - 3 years ago

Why is DB 1/3 and not 1/sqrt(3) ?

Stefan Matei - 3 years ago

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D is in the center of a equilateral triangle.

D C A D = B D A D = s i n ( 3 0 ) = 1 2 \frac{DC}{AD}=\frac{BD}{AD}=sin(30^\circ)=\frac12

This means A D = 2 D C AD=2\cdot DC

Marta Reece - 3 years ago

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thanks, i noticed i had actually made a reading mistake.

Stefan Matei - 3 years ago

I feel it would be better to connect to the definition of inscribed - meaning the sphere is tangent with the face - rather than just stating where D is.

John McLaughlin - 3 years ago

Is AC . CB = AB . CD works?

Nadia ALmas Muinir - 3 years ago

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It's true, as both are twice the area of the triangle A B C ABC , but I am not sure how you are using this.

Marta Reece - 3 years ago
Michael Mendrin
May 7, 2018

Let edge length be 1 1 . Then the distance from the center of any square to the edge is 1 2 \dfrac{1}{2} . The distance from the center of any equilateral triangle to the edge is 1 2 3 \dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{3}} . Then we have for the inradius

( 1 2 ) 2 ( 1 2 3 ) 2 = 1 6 \sqrt{ ( \dfrac{1}{2} )^2 - ( \dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{3}} )^2 } = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{6}}

Carwaniwer Qee
May 14, 2018

1/√6

It's a well-written solution!

Brian Lie - 3 years ago

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This is an easy and simple solution.

Carwaniwer Qee - 3 years ago
Robert DeLisle
May 18, 2018

Using a unit octahedron the radius and the ratio are the same number. That number can be found using several steps of basic geometry as shown below.

Thankyou, this has been a most detailed and helpful solution

Andrew Bartltrop - 3 years ago

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You are welcome.

Robert DeLisle - 3 years ago

The diameter of the sphere must be smaller than the length of the edge. So the double of an answer must be smaller than 1 to be valid. There is only one such answer.

Arjen Vreugdenhil
May 17, 2018

A regular octagon is most easily described by placing vertices at the points ( ± 1 , 0 , 0 ) , ( 0 , ± 1 , 0 ) , ( 0 , 0 , ± 1 ) (\pm 1, 0, 0),\,(0, \pm 1, 0),\,(0, 0, \pm 1) .

The side length is the distance between ( 0 , 1 , 0 ) (0,1,0) and ( 1 , 0 , 0 ) (1,0,0) (for instance): d = 1 2 + 1 2 = 2 d = \sqrt{1^2 + 1^2} = \sqrt 2 .

The faces may be described by equations of the form ± x ± y ± z = 1 \pm x \pm y \pm z = 1 . Symmetry shows that the sphere touches each face at ± x = ± y = ± z \pm x = \pm y = \pm z , which is therefore equal to 1 3 \tfrac13 . This means that the radius of the sphere is r = ( 1 3 ) 2 + ( 1 3 ) 2 + ( 1 3 ) 2 = 1 / 3 . r = \sqrt{(\tfrac13)^2 + (\tfrac13)^2 + (\tfrac13)^2} = 1/\sqrt 3. Thus r d = 1 / 3 2 = 1 6 . \frac r d = \frac{1/\sqrt 3}{\sqrt 2} = \frac{1}{\sqrt 6}.

To get the radius, we could use formula of distance from ( 0 , 0 , 0 ) (0,0,0) to one of the face:

r = 0 + 0 + 0 1 1 2 + 1 2 + 1 2 = 1 3 r=\dfrac{\big|0+0+0-1\big|}{\sqrt{1^2+1^2+1^2}}=\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{3}}

Laurent Shorts - 3 years ago

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Correct. However, I tried to use no "black box" formulas in the solution.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years ago
Kelvin Hong
May 13, 2018

Just look at one of the face of octahedron, let its side length be 2 a \sqrt2a then the length from the center of octahedron to one of its verticle will be a a .

Then, by setting the origin of 3d-coordinate system be the center of octahedron, and let x , y , z x,y,z axis point to three of its verticles, then the plane equation will be x + y + z = a x+y+z=a , so the distance from origin to the plane must be r = 0 + 0 + 0 a 1 2 + 1 2 + 1 2 = a 3 \displaystyle r=\bigg|\frac{0+0+0-a}{\sqrt{1^2+1^2+1^2}}\bigg|=\frac{a}{\sqrt3} , after compare, we get the ratio of radius to its side length be 1 6 \boxed{\frac1{\sqrt6}} .

John McLaughlin
May 18, 2018

Purely Pythagorean: if side length is 1,

a = 1 2 x + y = 3 2 b = 1 2 r 2 = a 2 x 2 = 1 4 ( 3 2 y ) 2 = y 3 y 2 1 2 r 2 = b 2 y 2 1 2 y 2 = y 3 y 2 1 2 y = 1 3 r = 1 6 \begin{aligned} a &= \frac{1}{2} \\ x + y &= \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \\ b &= \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \\ r^2 &= a^2 - x^2 \\ &= \frac{1}{4} - (\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} - y)^2 \\ &= y\sqrt{3} - y^2 - \frac{1}{2} \\ r^2 &= b^2 - y^2 \\ \frac{1}{2} - y^2 &= y\sqrt{3} - y^2 - \frac{1}{2} \\ y &= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \\ r &= \frac{1}{\sqrt{6}} \end{aligned}

Jeffrey H.
May 15, 2018

There isn’t any thing

Dior He - 3 years ago

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Did you try clicking on "Solution"?

Jeffrey H. - 3 years ago

Not impressed.

You could at least learn enough html to make the link scroll to the appropriate section like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octahedron#Regular_octahedron

Anything less is just rude.

Better yet, you could spare us the sarcasm by deleting your "solution".

Robert DeLisle - 3 years ago

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