Let a and b with a > b > 0 be real numbers satisfying a 2 + b 2 = 4 a b . Find a b .
Give your answer to 3 decimal places.
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2 great approaches shown :)
Alternative Method: Trigonometry
Let a = rsin(theta), b = rcos(theta)
You will find out that the value of b/a = tan(pi/12)
I had used second method. Nice solution!
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Hii!I used the second method! I Have a doubt in my note Logarithic Tactics!can u help me? I'm stuck on that from many days!
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I adopted the second method and actully solved it orally execpt for using my calculator to find the value of (2-√3)
I used the first approach . Nice question !
i'm using your first method
Didn't think second method going to work so yeah, it's actually works
Even I used the first method . BTW the second method is a COOL approach (+ 1) !!!
This is a quadratic equation we can write a 2 + b 2 − 4 a b = 0 lets solve for b: b = 2 4 a + / − 1 6 a 2 − 4 a 2 = 2 4 a + / − 2 3 a = 2 a + / − 3 a Since a > b = > b = a ( 2 − 3 ) a b = a a ( 2 − 3 ) Which leaves us with 2 − 3 = 0 , 2 6 8
As I skimmed through your solutions I realized mine is quite different. It goes like this:
a 2 + b 2 = 4 a b
a 2 − 4 a b + 4 b 2 = 3 b 2
( a − 2 b ) 2 = 3 b 2 )
a − 2 b = b 3
a = b ( 3 + 2 )
Then, we can substitute a for b ( 3 + 2 ) in a b leaving us with:
b ( 3 + 2 ) b = 3 + 2 1 ≈ 0 . 2 6 8
From the given information we see that
( a + b ) 2 = 6 a b , ( a − b ) 2 = 2 a b
⇒ a − b a + b = 3
Now, dividing numerator and denominator by a, we get,
⇒ a a − b a a + b = 3
⇒ 1 − a b 1 + a b = 3
⇒ 1 + a b = 3 − 3 a b
⇒ ( 1 + 3 ) a b = 3 − 1
⇒ a b = 3 + 1 3 − 1 = 2 − 3 ≈ 0 . 2 6 8
a^2-4ab+b^2=0 =>> 3a^2-3a^2+a^2-4ab+b^2=0 =>> 4a^2-4ab+b^2=3a^2 =>>> (2a-b)^2=3a^2 =>>2a-b=a3^1/2 =>>>2a-a3^1/2=b =>> a(2-3^1/2)=b =>>> b/a =>>> a(2-3^1/2)/a=(2-3^1/2)
1 + ( a b ) 2 = 4 ∗ a b . L e t a b = X . W e k n o w ( m ± n ) 2 = m 2 + n 2 ± 2 m n . ⟹ ( 1 + X ) 2 = 6 X , a n d ( 1 − X ) 2 = 2 X . ∴ 1 + X = 6 X a n d 1 − X = 2 X A d d i n g t h e t w o e q u a t i o n s , ∴ 2 = 2 X ∗ ( 3 + 1 ) ⟹ X = 4 + 2 3 2 = 2 − 3 = 0 . 2 6 7 9
Divide by a ^2 [b/a]^2-4[b/a] +1=0 so b/a 2+√3. or 2 -√3. b/a <1 so b/a = 2-√3 = 0.268
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Continuing @Paola Ramírez 's approach from inspiration problem:
( a + b ) 2 = a 2 + b 2 + 2 a b = 4 a b + 2 a b = 6 a b
( a − b ) 2 = a 2 + b 2 − 2 a b = 4 a b − 2 a b = 2 a b
Then, ( a − b ) 2 ( a + b ) 2 = 2 a b 6 a b ⇒ a − b a + b = 3
The above is Paola's solution and we continue with it by applying componendo and dividendo like this:
a − b a + b = 1 3 ⟹ a + b − a + b a + b + a − b = 3 − 1 3 + 1
⟹ b a = ( 3 − 1 ) ( 3 + 1 ) ( 3 + 1 ) 2 = 3 − 1 3 + 1 + 2 3 = 2 2 ( 2 + 3 ) = 2 + 3
Since 2 + 3 1 = 2 − 3 ⟹ a b = 2 − 3 ≈ 0 . 2 6 8
Alternate Method:
a 2 + b 2 = 4 a b and dividing both sides by a b we have b a + a b = 4 then let x = a b and we have x + x 1 = 4 ⟹ x 2 − 4 x + 1 = 0 and solving the quadratic gives x = 2 ± 3 but since b < a we have a b < 1 so we choose 2 − 3 ≈ 0 . 2 6 8 since its less than 1 .