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Calculus Level 2

x x x x x x x \LARGE x^{x^{x^{x^{x^{x^x}}}}}

Find the third derivative of the function above at x = 1 x=1 .


The answer is 9.

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2 solutions

Otto Bretscher
May 4, 2015

Based on Pi Han Goh's brilliant note, we can generalise:

Let T n ( f ( x ) ) T_n(f(x)) be the Taylor polynomial of f ( x ) f(x) at x = 0 x=0 .

If T n ( f ( x ) ) = T n ( g ( x ) ) T_n(f(x))=T_n(g(x)) for two functions, then T n + 1 ( ln ( x + 1 ) f ( x ) ) T_{n+1}(\ln(x+1)f(x)) = T n + 1 ( ln ( x + 1 ) g ( x ) ) =T_{n+1}(\ln(x+1)g(x)) ; since ln ( x + 1 ) \ln(x+1) does not have a constant term, the degree gets "pushed up". This in turn implies that T n + 1 ( ( x + 1 ) f ( x ) ) = T n + 1 ( ( x + 1 ) g ( x ) ) T_{n+1}((x+1)^{f(x)})=T_{n+1}((x+1)^{g(x)}) , by exponentiation.

Now T 1 ( x + 1 ) = T 1 ( ( x + 1 ) x + 1 ) T_1(x+1)=T_1\left((x+1)^{x+1}\right) , by inspection ; applying the above observation n 1 n-1 times, we find that T n ( n ( x + 1 ) ) = T n ( n + 1 ( x + 1 ) ) T_n\left(^n(x+1)\right)=T_{n}\left(^{n+1}(x+1)\right) and therefore T n ( n ( x + 1 ) ) = T n ( m ( x + 1 ) ) T_n\left(^n(x+1)\right)=T_{n}\left(^m(x+1)\right) for all m n m\geq{n} .

Let D n ( f ( x ) ) D_n(f(x)) be the nth derivative of f ( x ) f(x) at x = 0 x=0 . Since D n D_n is determined by T n T_n , we have D n ( n ( x + 1 ) ) = D n ( m ( x + 1 ) ) D_n\left(^n(x+1)\right)=D_{n}\left(^m(x+1)\right) for all m n m\geq{n} .

In particular, D 3 ( 7 ( x + 1 ) ) = D 3 ( 3 ( x + 1 ) ) = 9 D_3\left(^7(x+1)\right)=D_{3}\left(^3(x+1)\right)=\boxed{9} , as we saw in Pi Han Goh's earlier problem.

¨ \ddot\smile

Follow up question: find a general formula for the n th n^\text{th} derivative of n x ^n x at x = 1 x=1 .

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

Hi, Mr Otto, you seems like a pretty cool guy (understatement), can I have your email or something so we can communicate further? I want to learn how to be a sage like you.

Pi Han Goh - 6 years ago

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I'm no sage, trust me ;) But, yes, I would love to be in touch... I'm on Facebook, under the name Otto K. Bretscher, and a good e-mail to reach me is okb@swissmail.org. I'm pretty active on Brilliant now, but that will have to change soon as I get back into teaching... I will start teaching a Summer Programme in Calculus at Harvard soon, and before that I will travel a bit in Europe. Take care and stay in touch!

Otto Bretscher - 6 years ago

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Pi Han Goh - 6 years ago
Pi Han Goh
May 4, 2015

We use the concept from Otto Bretscher's solution with the tetration notation applied. We want to find the 3rd derivative of 7 ( x + 1 ) \ ^7 (x+1) at x = 0 x=0 . Consider its Maclaurin Series.

Brief synopsis:

Step 1 : Start with the number 1.

Step 2 : Multiply it by the series of ln ( x + 1 ) \ln(x+1) .

Step 3 : Multiply it by ( x + 1 ) (x+1) ,

Step 4 : Exponentiate it: e previous expression e^{\text{previous expression}} .

Step 5 : Repeat steps 2 to 4 for another 6 times.

Step 6 : Terminate algorithm. Find the coefficient of x 3 x^3 and multiply it by 3 ! = 6 3!=6 . Do victory dance.

Okay. Here's the full working. Since we're only interested in the 3rd derivative, we only need to expand the series up to the x 3 x^3 -term.

ln ( x + 1 ) = x x 2 2 + x 3 3 O ( x 4 ) \Rightarrow \ln(x+1) = x - \frac{x^2}{2} + \frac{x^3}{3} - O(x^4)

( x + 1 ) ln ( x + 1 ) = x + x 2 2 x 3 6 + O ( x 4 ) \Rightarrow (x+1) \ln(x+1) = x + \frac {x^2}{2} - \frac{x^3}{6} + O(x^4) .

Expontentiate it: e y = 1 + y + y 2 2 + y 3 6 + O ( y 4 ) \Rightarrow e^y = 1 + y + \frac{y^2}2 + \frac{y^3}6 + O(y^4) .

e ( x + 1 ) ln ( x + 1 ) = x + x 2 2 x 3 6 + = ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) = 1 + x + x 2 2 + x 3 2 + O ( x 4 ) \Rightarrow e^{(x+1) \ln(x+1) = x + \frac {x^2}{2} - \frac{x^3}{6} + \ldots} = (x+1)^{(x+1)} = 1 + x + \frac{x^2}{2} + \frac{x^3}{2} + O(x^4)

ln ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) = x + x 2 2 + 5 x 3 6 + O ( x 4 ) \Rightarrow \ln(x+1) \cdot (x+1)^{(x+1)} = x + \frac{x^2}{2} + \frac{5x^3}6 + O(x^4) .

e ln ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) = ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) = 1 + x + x 2 + 3 x 3 2 + O ( x 4 ) \Rightarrow e^{\ln(x+1) \cdot (x+1)^{(x+1)}} = (x+1)^{(x+1)^{(x+1)}} = 1 + x + x^2 + \frac{3x^3}{2} + O(x^4)

ln ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) = x + x 2 2 + 5 x 3 6 + O ( x 4 ) \Rightarrow \ln(x+1) \cdot (x+1)^{(x+1)^{(x+1)}} = x + \frac{x^2}{2} + \frac{5x^3}{6} + O(x^4) .

e ln ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) ( x + 1 ) = 4 ( x + 1 ) = 1 + x + x 2 + 3 x 3 2 + O ( x 4 ) \Rightarrow e^{ \ln(x+1) \cdot (x+1)^{(x+1)^{(x+1)}} } = \ ^4 (x+1) = 1 + x + x^2 + \frac{3x^3}{2} + O(x^4)

The first 4 terms of the series of 4 ( x + 1 ) \ ^4 (x+1) is the same as 3 ( x + 1 ) \ ^3 (x+1) . If we repeat steps 2 to 4 another 3 more times, we will still conclude that sum of the first four terms of 7 ( x + 1 ) \ ^7 (x+1) as 1 + x + x 2 + 3 x 3 2 1 + x + x^2 + \frac{3x^3}{2} .

By Maclaurin Series, the third derivative of 7 ( x + 1 ) \ ^7(x+1) satisfies 3 2 = d 3 d x 3 [ 7 ( x + 1 ) ] 3 ! d 3 d x 3 [ 7 ( x + 1 ) ] = 3 2 × 3 ! = 9 \frac{3}{2} = \frac{ \frac{d^3}{dx^3} \left [ \ ^7 (x+1) \right ] }{3!} \Rightarrow \frac{d^3}{dx^3} \left [ \ ^7 (x+1) \right ] = \frac 32 \times 3! = \boxed{9} .

@Otto Bretscher , see this note .

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 1 month ago

Hmm, all to complicated. I use a series expansion of the power tower in terms of ln(x) due to Galidakis (you can find it on the Wolfram site under power tower). I omit the (simple) calcutation, but want to note that as a result f'''(1)=9 for every power tower of height at least 3.

J T - 1 year, 12 months ago

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