Inspired by Steven Chase

Geometry Level 5

There exists a circular disc in R 3 \mathbb{R}^3 with the following properties:

  • Centre , C = ( 3 , 1 , 5 ) \vec{C} = (3,1,5)
  • Vector perpendicular to the plane of the disc , N = ( 2 , 5 , 7 ) \vec{N} = (-2,5,7)
  • Radius , R = 4 R = 4

The minimum distance of the point ( 5 , 7 , 9 ) (5,7,9) from the disc can be represented as

a b 1 c \large \sqrt{a - b \sqrt{\dfrac{1}{c}}}

where a a and b b are positive integers and c c is a square-free positive integer. Find the sum a + b + c a+b+c .


The answer is 274.

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The equation of the disk can be parametrized as: r ( R , θ ) = C + R cos θ e 1 ^ + R sin θ e 2 ^ \vec{r}(R,\theta)=\vec{C}+R\cos\theta \hat{e_1} + R\sin\theta \hat{e_2} where 0 R 4 0 \leq R \leq 4 , 0 θ 2 π 0 \leq \theta \leq 2\pi and { e 1 ^ , e 2 ^ } \{\hat{e_1},\hat{e_2}\} is an orthonormal basis for the plane in which the disk is contained. With a little luck we find that ( 1 , 1 , 1 ) (1,-1,1) belongs to the plane 2 x + 5 y + 7 z = 0 -2x+5y+7z=0 , so ( 1 , 1 , 1 ) × N = ( 4 , 3 , 1 ) (1,-1,1) \times \vec{N} = (4,3,-1) will be the other spanning vector. So we just need to normalize: e 1 ^ = 1 3 ( 1 , 1 , 1 ) \hat{e_1}=\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{3}}(1,-1,1) and e 2 ^ = 1 26 ( 4 , 3 , 1 ) \hat{e_2}=\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{26}}(4,3,-1) .

Let f ( R , θ ) = r ( 5 , 7 , 9 ) 2 f(R,\theta)=\lVert \vec{r} - (5,7,9) \rVert^2 , then: f ( R , θ ) = ( 2 , 6 , 4 ) + R cos θ e 1 ^ + R sin θ e 2 ^ 2 = ( 2 , 6 , 4 ) 2 + R 2 cos 2 θ e 1 ^ 2 + R 2 sin 2 θ e 2 ^ 2 + 2 R cos θ ( 2 , 6 , 4 ) e 1 ^ + 2 R sin θ ( 2 , 6 , 4 ) e 2 ^ + R 2 cos θ sin θ e 1 ^ e 2 ^ = 56 + R 2 44 26 R sin θ \begin{aligned} f(R,\theta) &= \lVert (-2,-6,-4)+R\cos\theta \hat{e_1} + R\sin\theta \hat{e_2} \rVert^2 \\ &= \lVert (-2,-6,-4) \rVert^2 + R^2\cos^2\theta \lVert \hat{e_1} \rVert^2 + R^2\sin^2\theta \lVert \hat{e_2} \rVert^2 + 2R\cos\theta(-2,-6,-4) \cdot \hat{e_1} + 2R\sin\theta(-2,-6,-4) \cdot \hat{e_2} + R^2\cos\theta\sin\theta\hat{e_1} \cdot \hat{e_2} \\ &= 56 + R^2 - \dfrac{44}{\sqrt{26}}R\sin\theta \end{aligned} Now, to find the minimum distance, find ( R , θ ) (R,\theta) such that f = 0 \nabla f = \vec{0} : 0 = f θ = 44 26 R cos θ θ = π 2 0 = f R = 2 R 44 26 sin θ R = 22 26 sin θ = 22 26 \begin{aligned} 0 &= \dfrac{\partial f}{\partial \theta} = -\dfrac{44}{\sqrt{26}}R\cos\theta \implies \theta = \dfrac{\pi}{2}\\ 0 &= \dfrac{\partial f}{\partial R} = 2R - \dfrac{44}{\sqrt{26}}\sin\theta \implies R = \dfrac{22}{\sqrt{26}}\sin\theta = \dfrac{22}{\sqrt{26}} \end{aligned} But 22 26 > 4 \dfrac{22}{\sqrt{26}} > 4 , so we are outside the disk. But since the distance is decreasing from the center of the disk until R = 22 26 R=\dfrac{22}{\sqrt{26}} keeping fixed θ = π 2 \theta=\dfrac{\pi}{2} , we must choose R = 4 R=4 , i.e., a point on the boundary: f m i n = f ( 4 , π 2 ) = 56 + 16 44 26 ( 4 ) sin π 2 = 72 176 26 = 72 88 2 13 \begin{aligned} f_{min} &= f\left(4,\dfrac{\pi}{2}\right) = 56 + 16 - \dfrac{44}{\sqrt{26}}(4)\sin \dfrac{\pi}{2} \\ &= 72 - \dfrac{176}{\sqrt{26}} = 72 - 88\sqrt{\dfrac{2}{13}} \end{aligned}

Finally, the minimum distance is just the square root of the previous value: 72 176 1 26 \sqrt{72 - 176\sqrt{\dfrac{1}{26}}} , making the answer 72 + 176 + 26 = 274 72+176+26=\boxed{274} .

Can we just suppose a plane from the coordinates then find the perpendicular distance and apply pythagoras theorem? It would be more simplified approach.

Sahil Silare - 3 years, 5 months ago

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In this case no because the point on the plane would be outside the disk.

Alan Enrique Ontiveros Salazar - 3 years, 5 months ago

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We can confirm that by calculating the distance between the point and center , then by that we can compare radius and the distance we have found.

Sahil Silare - 3 years, 4 months ago

Nice solution! The statement of the problem is ambiguous. As you have shown, equivalently we can have a = 72, b = 176, c = 1 and d = 26. This choice satisfies all conditions: "a and b are positive integers with gcd(a,b) = 8, c and d are square-free positive mutually coprime integers", it gives the sum a + b + c + d = 275.

Wei Chen - 3 years, 5 months ago
Arturo Presa
May 25, 2018

Solution without using Calculus:

Let u \vec{u} be a vector from the center of the disc ( 3 , 1 , 5 ) (3, 1, 5) to an arbitrary point of the disc. Then u 4 |\vec{u}|\leq 4 and u N = 0. \vec{u} \cdot \vec{N}=0 . Let v \vec{v} be the vector from the center of the disc ( 3 , 1 , 5 ) (3, 1, 5) to the point ( 5 , 7 , 9 ) . (5, 7, 9). Then our problem reduces to minimize v u |\vec{v}-\vec{u}| for all possible vectors u \vec{u} defined as above. In what follows, we are going to use that the vector v \vec{v} can be expressed in the form v = v 1 + v 2 , \vec{v}=\vec{v_1}+\vec{v_2}, where v 1 = v N N 2 N \vec{v_1}=\frac{\vec{v}\cdot\vec{N}}{|\vec{N}|^2} \vec{N} -that is, parallel to N \vec{N}- and where v 2 v 1 = 0. \vec{v_2}\cdot\vec{v_1}=0.

Let's find an expression for v u 2 . |\vec{v}-\vec{u}|^2. v u 2 = ( v u ) ( v u ) = v 2 2 v u + u 2 = 56 + u 2 2 u ( v 1 + v 2 ) . |\vec{v}-\vec{u}|^2=(\vec{v}-\vec{u})\cdot(\vec{v}-\vec{u})=|\vec{v}|^2-2\vec{v}\cdot\vec{u}+|\vec{u}|^2=56+|\vec{u}|^2-2\vec{u}\cdot(\vec{v_1}+\vec{v_2}). Since u \vec{u} and v 1 \vec{v_1} are orthogonal then v u 2 = 56 + u 2 2 u v 2 = 56 + u 2 2 u v 2 cos θ 56 + u 2 2 u v 2 = 56 + ( u v 2 ) 2 v 2 2 ( ) |\vec{v}-\vec{u}|^2=56+|\vec{u}|^2-2\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v_2}=56+|\vec{u}|^2-2|\vec{u}||\vec{v_2}|\cos \theta\geq 56+|\vec{u}|^2-2|\vec{u}||\vec{v_2}|=56+(|\vec{u}|-|\vec{v_2}|)^2-|\vec{v_2}|^2\quad\quad(*) where θ \theta is the angle formed by u \vec{u} and v 2 . \vec{v_2}. Now, using the fact that v = v 1 + v 2 , \vec{v}=\vec{v_1}+\vec{v_2}, and since v 2 v 1 = 0. \vec{v_2}\cdot\vec{v_1}=0. we can conclude that v 2 = v 1 2 + v 2 2 , |\vec{v}|^2=|\vec{v_1}|^2+|\vec{v_2}|^2, and, therefore, v 2 = 22 26 , |\vec{v_2}|=\frac{22}{\sqrt{26}}, and this value is greater than 4. Using this fact, the fact that u 4 |\vec{u}|\leq 4 , and ( ) , (*), v u 2 56 + ( 4 v 2 ) 2 v 2 2 = 72 176 26 |\vec{v}-\vec{u}|^2 \geq 56+(4-|\vec{v_2}|)^2-|\vec{v_2}|^2=72-\frac{176}{\sqrt{26}} The equality is reached when u = 4 v 2 v 2 . \vec{u}=4\frac{\vec{v_2}}{|\vec{v_2}|}. Therefore, the minimum value of v u |\vec{v}-\vec{u}| will be 72 176 26 . \sqrt{72-\frac{176}{\sqrt{26}}}. So the answer to the question will be 72 + 176 + 26 = 274 . 72+176+26=\boxed{274}.

That's a great approach. :)

Tapas Mazumdar - 3 years ago

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Thank you! Very nice problem!

Arturo Presa - 3 years ago

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I had to do some editing to correct some details, because I was considering only vectors u , \vec{u}, such that u = 4. |\vec{u}|=4. Now my proof takes into consideration that u 4. |\vec{u}|\leq 4.

Arturo Presa - 3 years ago

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