3 π e , π 3 e , e 3 π
Compare the above terms.
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That's a very neat solution!
Standard textbook problem!
👍 hats off clean and neat .
Note that 2 e + π ≈ 3 . Thus, we substitute π = 3 + δ and e = 3 − δ . We have
3 π e ≈ 3 ( 3 − δ ) ( 3 + δ ) = 3 9 − δ 2
Since δ < 1 and is close to 0 , we can substitute δ 2 ≈ 0 , so 3 π e ≈ 3 9 = 1 9 6 8 3 . For e 3 π , we have
e 3 π = ( 3 − δ ) 3 ( 3 + δ ) = 3 9 + 3 δ ( 1 − 3 δ ) 9 + 3 δ
We expand to the zeroth order via Taylor's (because δ is reasonably small so that's ok)
e 3 π ≈ 3 9 + 3 δ > 3 9 > 3 π e
Doing the same thing with π 3 e , we get:
π 3 e = ( 3 + δ ) 3 ( 3 − δ ) = 3 9 − 3 δ ( 1 + 3 δ ) 9 − 3 δ ≈ 3 9 − 3 δ
So we have:
π 3 e 3 π e e 3 π ≈ 3 9 − 3 δ ≈ 3 9 ≈ 3 9 + 3 δ
so:
π 3 e < 3 π e < e 3 π
Author's note: Of course this is just a fluke solution, as their differences are still fairly big and distinct. The error value for 3 π e is about 65%, so it is massive, but this functions for the question without using a calculator.
Challenge Master Note : The title suggests that these 3 numbers are transcendental. Is it true? Can you prove it?
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I know that e 3 π is indeed transcendental because it is the cube of Gelfond's constant. The others are way too weird for me to consider!
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@Sharky Kesa Nice solution. BTW isn't it Gelfond:)
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Use the graph of x^(1/x). You will see e^(1/e)>3^(1/3)>π^(1/π) then raise their power by 3eπ to get e^3π>3^eπ>π^3e.
Further elaboration :
We start with the the graph y = x 1 / x . I will prove that y is a decreasing function for x > e via derivatives.
We start by applying the logarithmic differentiation, ln y = x ln x . We differentiate the previous equation with respect to x ,
y 1 ⋅ d x d y = x 2 1 − ln x .
Since y > 0 for all x > e and 1 − ln x < 0 for x > e , then
Since for all x > e , we know that y > 0 and 1 − ln x < 0 , then R H S < 0 and so d x d y < 0 . Hence, f ( x ) : = y = x 1 / x is a decreasing function for x > e .
Because e < 3 < π , then f ( e ) > f ( 3 ) > f ( π ) . And so
e 1 / e > 3 1 / 3 > π 1 / π ,
we raise the entire inequality by 3 e π to obtain the desired answer e 3 π > 3 π e > π 3 e .