Interesting Limit (26)

Calculus Level 3

Let L n L_n denote the arc length of the curve x 2 n + y 2 n = 1 , x^{2n}+y^{2n}=1, where n n is a positive integer. Find lim n L n . \displaystyle\lim_{n\to\infty}L_n.


The answer is 8.

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7 solutions

Gabriel Chacón
Apr 18, 2019

For x ( 1 , 1 ) , lim n x 2 n = 0 y = ± 1 x \in (-1,1), \displaystyle \lim_{n \to \infty}x^{2n}=0 \implies y=\pm 1 . Since the equation is symetrical, this also holds when we swap x x and y y .

The resulting curve is a square of perimeter 8 \boxed{8} .

See What is the limit volume of this figure as n goes to infinity?

"This is not a requirement to solve this problem. If you like, then determining this limit will give you a major clue:

Assuming [ x 1 , lim n lim x 1 x 2 n ] \text{Assuming}\left[\left| x\right| \leq 1,\underset{n\to \infty }{\text{lim}}\ \underset{x\to 1}{\text{lim}} \ x^{2n}\right] "

Eric Nordstrom
Apr 18, 2019

lim n x 2 n = { 0 for x < 1 1 for x = 1 for x > 1 \lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}x^{2n}=\begin{cases} 0 & \text{for }|x|<1\\ 1 & \text{for }|x|=1\\ \infty & \text{for }|x|>1 \end{cases}

The only way to make the equation true at n n\rightarrow \infty is for one of { x , y } \{|x|,|y|\} to be 1 and the other to be less than 1. The locus of points thus described is a square of perimeter 8 \boxed{8} .

Steven Chase
Apr 18, 2019

By inspection, in the limit:

1) Neither x x nor y y can have a magnitude greater than 1 1
2) x x and y y cannot both have a magnitude less than 1 1
3) The only permissible combination is one variable at exactly 1 1 , with the other variable having a magnitude of less than 1 1
4) This results in a square, centered on the origin, with a side length of 2 2 and a perimeter of 8 8


It therefore appears that a square is related to a circle in a somewhat unexpected way, with both curves being limiting cases of a more general curve. The square is the "high n n " limit and the circle is the "low n n " limit

Kazem Sepehrinia
May 1, 2019

How about the curve length of x m n + y m n = 1 |x|^{\frac{m}{n}}+|y|^{\frac{m}{n}}=1 where m m , n n are positive integers and n n \to \infty ?

Vijay Simha
Apr 18, 2019

As n gets larger and larger, the contours of x^(2n) + y^(2n) = 1 approach that of a SQUARE with a side length of 2, centered at (0,0)

Dan Czinege
Apr 18, 2019

When y is from interval (-1,1) the y^(2n) as n goes to infinity goes to zero, because even if it is 0,999999999 it must go to zero. So as y is from that interval x is either 1 or -1 and when y is either 1 or -1 x is from interval (-1,1) so when we imagine, how will the graph looks like, we will notice that it is a square with side lenght 2, so the answer is the perimeter of this square, which is 2*4=8.

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