Interesting logarithms - 1

Algebra Level 2

{ log m w = 12 log n w = 16 log p w = 36 log m n p q w = 72 \begin{cases} \begin{aligned} \log_mw & = 12 \\ \log_nw & = 16 \\ \log_pw & = 36 \\ \log_{mnpq}w & = 72 \end{aligned} \end{cases}

If the conditions above hold true for integers m m , n n , p p , q q , and w w , and log q w = a b -\log_qw = \dfrac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime integers, what is the value of a 2 b 2 a^2-b^2 ?


The answer is 20207.

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2 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
May 25, 2020

{ log m w = log w log m = 12 log m = log w 12 log n w = log w log n = 16 log n = log w 16 log p w = log w log p = 36 log p = log w 36 \begin{cases} \log_m w = \dfrac {\log w}{\log m} = 12 & \implies \log m = \dfrac {\log w}{12} \\ \log_n w = \dfrac {\log w}{\log n} = 16 & \implies \log n = \dfrac {\log w}{16} \\ \log_p w = \dfrac {\log w}{\log p} = 36 & \implies \log p = \dfrac {\log w}{36} \end{cases}

Then

log m n p q w = 72 log w log ( m n p q ) = 72 72 log ( m n p q ) = log w 72 ( log m + log n + log p + log q ) = log w 72 ( 1 12 + 1 16 + 1 36 ) log w + 72 log q = log w ( 6 + 9 2 + 2 ) log w + 72 log q = log w 72 log q = log w ( 1 25 2 ) = 23 2 log w log w log q = 144 23 log q w = 144 23 \begin{aligned} \log_{mnpq} w & = 72 \\ \frac {\log w}{\log (mnpq)} & = 72 \\ 72 \log (mnpq) & = \log w \\ 72(\log m + \log n + \log p + \log q) & = \log w \\ 72 \left(\frac 1{12} + \frac 1{16} + \frac 1{36} \right)\log w + 72 \log q & = \log w \\ \left(6 + \frac 92 + 2 \right)\log w + 72 \log q & = \log w \\ 72 \log q & = \log w \left(1 - \frac {25}2\right) = - \frac {23}2 \log w \\ \frac {\log w}{\log q} & = - \frac {144}{23} \\ \implies - \log_q w & = \frac {144}{23} \end{aligned}

Therefore, a 2 b 2 = 14 4 2 2 3 2 = 20207 a^2 - b^2 = 144^2 - 23^2 = \boxed{20207} .

Zakir Husain
May 25, 2020

I will be using these equations again and again through out the solution : log m w = 12 \log_m w=12 log n w = 16 \log_n w=16 log p w = 36 \log_p w=36 log m n p q w = 72 \log_{mnpq}w=72

From our 4 t h 4_{th} equation : m 72 n 72 p 72 q 72 = w m^{72}n^{72}p^{72}q^{72}=w ( m 12 ) 6 ( n 16 ) 9 2 ( p 36 ) 2 q 72 = w (m^{12})^{6}(n^{16})^{\frac{9}{2}}(p^{36})^{2}q^{72}=w Simplifying using our 1 s t , 2 n d 1_{st}, 2_{nd} and 3 r d 3_{rd} equation w 6 w 9 2 w 2 q 72 = w w^6w^{\frac{9}{2}}w^2q^{72}=w q 72 w 2 + 6 + 9 2 = w q^{72}w^{2+6+\frac{9}{2}}=w q 72 w 25 2 = w q^{72}w^{\frac{25}{2}}=w q 72 = w 1 25 2 q^{72}=w^{1-\frac{25}{2}} q 72 = w 23 2 q^{72}=w^{\frac{-23}{2}} Squaring both sides q 144 = w 23 q^{144}=w^{-23} Raising both sides to the power of 1 23 \frac{-1}{23} q 144 23 = w q^{\frac{-144}{23}}=w Therefore, l o g q w = 144 23 log_qw=\frac{-144}{23} log q w = 144 23 -\log_q w=\frac{144}{23} As 144 144 and 23 23 are co-prime therefore evaluating for the expression we wanted : 14 4 2 2 3 2 = ( 144 23 ) ( 144 + 23 ) = ( 121 ) ( 167 ) = 20207 144^2-23^2=(144-23)(144+23)=(121)(167)=\boxed{20207}

@Zakir Husain , you need to put a backslash before all function including \log_e x log e x \log_e x . Note that the function name log is not in italic which is for variables and constants. So it is \sin \frac \pi 2 sin π 2 \sin \frac \pi 2 , \cos \frac \theta 3 cos θ 3 \cos \frac \theta 3 , \tan, \cot, \csc, \sec

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 year ago

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I tried it but it didn't worked

Zakir Husain - 1 year ago

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You should leave a space before w like \log_m w log m w \log_m w . Need not clamp up everything. Two or more spaces will also work but not 0. I have done the first three in your solution for you. I have amended your question.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 year ago

@Zakir Husain , if you still need them to stick together you can use braces \tan m{w} tan m w \tan_m{w} or bracket \tan m(w) tan m ( w ) \tan_m(w) . It is because LaTex cannot understand the code \tan_mw, if you don't break mw.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 year ago

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Thanks! it worked!

Zakir Husain - 1 year ago

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OK. We must work towards every member here use LaTex probably.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 year ago

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