Irrational Triangle

Geometry Level 2

Find the area of triangle A B C ABC with side lengths A B = 13 AB = \sqrt{13} , B C = 17 BC = \sqrt{17} , and C A = 20 CA = \sqrt{20} .

Bonus : Can you calculate without using the cosine rule ?


The answer is 7.

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Relevant wiki: Pythagorean Theorem

Notice that the numbers in the roots can be written as the sum of two numbers. We can then put the triangle A B C ABC into a 4 × 4 4\times 4 square as shown below:

By Pythagorean Theorem , we can evaluate the triangle's sides:

A B 2 = 13 = 3 2 + 2 2 AB^2 = 13 = 3^2 + 2^2

B C 2 = 17 = 1 2 + 4 2 BC^2 =17 = 1^2 + 4^2

C A 2 = 20 = 4 2 + 2 2 CA^2 = 20 = 4^2 + 2^2

From the image, we can see that A B AB is the hypotenuse of the right triangle with other sides of 2 2 & 3 3 ; B C BC with other sides of 1 1 & 4 4 ; and C A CA with other sides of 2 2 & 4 4 .

Thus, the area of triangle A B C ABC = ( 4 4 ) 1 2 ( 2 3 + 1 4 + 2 4 ) = 7 (4\cdot 4) -\frac{1}{2}(2\cdot 3 + 1\cdot 4 + 2\cdot 4) = \boxed{7} .

Very interesting geometric exposition! :)

Michael Huang - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Thank you. :)

Worranat Pakornrat - 4 years, 3 months ago

very good solution and an even more interesting problem

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks. :)

Worranat Pakornrat - 4 years, 3 months ago

Interesting

Aarush Priyankaj - 2 years, 9 months ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Feb 22, 2017

By cosine rule , we have:

20 = 13 + 17 2 13 17 cos B cos B = 10 2 13 17 = 5 221 sin B = 1 cos 2 B = 1 25 221 = 196 221 = 14 221 \begin{aligned} 20 & = 13 + 17 - 2\sqrt{13 \cdot 17} \cos B \\ \implies \cos B & = \frac {10}{2\sqrt{13 \cdot 17}} = \frac 5{\sqrt {221}} \\ \sin B & = \sqrt{1-\cos^2 B} = \sqrt {1-\frac {25}{221}} = \sqrt{\frac {196}{221}} = \frac {14}{\sqrt{221}} \end{aligned}

The area of A B C \triangle ABC is given by A = a c sin B 2 = 13 17 2 14 221 = 7 A = \dfrac {ac \sin B}2 = \dfrac {\sqrt{13}\cdot \sqrt{17}}2 \cdot \dfrac {14}{\sqrt{221}} = \boxed{7}

Did exactly the same but all these manipulations were done within my mind. Sir you are a genius you always approach a problem with an eccentric solution. And your solutions makes me feel motivated that there's a solution for every problem we face.

Syed Shahabudeen - 4 years, 3 months ago
Antonio Rinaldi
Aug 24, 2017

Trace the triangle height from vertex B to H. Denote BH and AH by h h and x x , respectively. Then, by Pythagorean Theorem, the following system holds: 13 = h 2 + x 2 13=h^2+x^2 17 = h 2 + ( 20 x ) 2 17=h^2+(\sqrt{20} -x)^2 which gives (squared terms disappear) h = 7 × 5 : 5 h=7\times \sqrt5 : 5 and hence area is equal to 20 × 7 5 : 5 : 2 = 7 \sqrt{20} \times 7\sqrt5:5:2 =7 .

Using Heron's formula , Area

= ( a + b + c 2 ) ( a + b c 2 ) ( a b + c 2 ) ( a + b + c 2 ) = \sqrt{\left(\dfrac{a + b + c}{2}\right)\left(\dfrac{a + b - c}{2}\right)\left(\dfrac{a - b + c}{2}\right)\left(\dfrac{-a + b + c}{2}\right)}

= 1 4 { ( a + b ) 2 c 2 } { c 2 ( a b ) 2 } = \dfrac{1}{4} \sqrt{\{(a + b)^2 - c^2\}\{c^2 - (a - b})^2\}

= 1 4 ( a 2 + b 2 + 2 a b c 2 ) ( c 2 a 2 b 2 + 2 a b ) =\dfrac{1}{4} \sqrt{(a^2 + b^2 + 2ab - c^2)(c^2 - a^2 - b^2 + 2ab)}

= 4 a 2 b 2 ( a 2 + b 2 c 2 ) 4 = \dfrac{\sqrt{4a^2b^2 - (a^2 + b^2 - c^2)}}{4}

Putting a = 13 , b = 17 , c = 20 a = 13, b = 17, c = 20

Area = 7 =\boxed{7}

Roger Erisman
Feb 22, 2017

Sum of sides / 2 = 6.1 = S

A = sqrt(S (S-A) (S-B)*(S-C)) = sqrt(6.1X2.49X1.98X1.63)) = 7.001

This is Heron's formula

Tin Le - 2 years ago

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