Is 300 Possible?

In a 90-question, multiple-choice test, a student gets

  • + 4 +4 for a correct answer
  • 1 -1 for an incorrect attempt.

If the student attempted every single question, can he or she get a total score of exactly 300?

For example, if the student only got 60 correct answers (30 incorrect), then the total score would be 60 × 4 30 × 1 = 210. 60\times4 - 30\times1= 210.

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34 solutions

Ong Zi Qian
Oct 22, 2017

It is possible to find out the number of correct answers.

Let the number of correct answers be x x and the number of wrong answers be y y ,

There are totally 90 90 questions and the student attempted every single question:

x + y = 90 \Rightarrow x+y=90 --------------------------------- ( 1 ) (1)

The total score is 300 300 , + 4 +4 for a correct answer and 1 -1 for an incorrect attempt:

4 x y = 300 \Rightarrow 4x-y=300 ------------------------------ ( 2 ) (2)

( 2 ) + ( 1 ) (2)+(1) , we get:

5 x = 390 5x=390

x = 78 x=78

Therefore, the number of correct answers be 78 \boxed{78} and the number of wrong answers be 90 78 = 12 90-78=12 .

Moderator note:

Let's generalize to the situation without a specific number of questions on the test, and a final score of S . S.

Using x x as the number of correct answers and y y as the number of wrong answers, we just consider

4 x y = S 4x - y = S

which is a Diophantine Equation (both x x and y y must be integers). Because y y is multiplied by 1 this equation has a solution for any integer value of S . S.

What if the wrong answers were a 2 point deduction?

4 x 2 y = S 4x - 2y = S

Now when S S is an odd integer this has no solution.

With a x b y = S ax - by = S for positive integer values of a a and b , b, think about it: is there an easy way to tell if you can reach a particular S ? S?

Good solution, but you could have made that easier. Since the total questions are 90 and every question is attempted, you could have taken the incorrect questions as 90 x 90-x instead of assuming another variable for it.

Anuj Shikarkhane - 3 years, 7 months ago

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If you solved as mentioned with an equation you would have reached this conclusion..

Reinaldo Dias - 3 years, 7 months ago

... and for me, I had the pleasant coincidence when I clicked that '78% of people got this right'. Made me smile anyway...

Alec WILSON - 3 years, 7 months ago

I agree with the fore mentioned answer. it is implied that only one attempt successful or unsuccessful will result in a value one way or the other It is not clear that there might not be multiple attempts allowed in the test and that data is not represented.

Jim Canfield - 3 years, 7 months ago

I do not get this at all .Why do you combine the two formulas to get 5x equals 390.

Paul Goodwin - 3 years, 7 months ago

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When we combined the two equations, we can get

(X+Y)+(4X-Y)=300+90

There is,

5X=390

Ong Zi Qian - 3 years, 6 months ago

Such a exam I is JEE and I got 300 in a mock test attempting all questions.

Nivedit Jain - 3 years, 7 months ago

Let’s generalize that you get +a points for a right answer and -b points for a wrong answer. Let’s call the max number of points S. This means that:

ax-by=R

Where x is the number of correct answers, y is the number of wrong answers. So, what is the change in your score when you get one more problem correct. Well, x increases by one and y decreases by one, so your score increases by a+b. Therefore, any score R can be scored as long as

R=0 mod (a+b) And 0<=R<=S

Andrew Dennehy - 3 years, 5 months ago

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It seems right, but you made a mistake.

If you get b -b points for a wrong answer and there are S S questions,

you score b S -bS when you get no question correct.

As a example, there are 2 2 questions and you get 3 3 points for a correct answer and you get 1 -1 point for a wrong answer,

When you get 1 1 question correct and 1 1 question wrong, you score

3 1 = 2 0 ( m o d a + b ) 3-1=2 \neq 0 \pmod{a+b}

Therefore, your last sentence should change as :

any score R R can be scored as long as R b s ( m o d a + b ) R \equiv -bs \pmod{a+b} and 0 R S 0 \leq R \leq S

Ong Zi Qian - 3 years, 5 months ago
Naren Bhandari
Oct 22, 2017

If the target of the student is 300 300 marks to be obtained then student has 60 60 marks less to secure full marks 360 360 .

Aforementioned supplied conditions clearly speaks that 4 4 marks for each question in case it is correctly done however, in case it is done incorrectly then student has a lose of 4 4 marks for each question and 1 -1 being incorrect.

Noting total marks reduced per question is 5 5 and total marks reduced for some(unknown) questions is 60 60 . Thus total number of questions which are made mistake are total reduced marks total marks reduced per question = 60 5 = 12 \begin{aligned} \frac{\text{total reduced marks}}{\text{total marks reduced per question}}=\frac{60}{5} = 12\end{aligned} and correctly done are 90 12 = 78 90-12=78 . The answer therefore is yes \text{yes} .

Best solution so far.

Hany Ahmad - 3 years, 7 months ago

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I liked the different approach.

K M - 3 years, 7 months ago

In order to answer the question (yes/no) all we need to do is follow the above logic until we reach the point of dividing 60 by 5. If we note that 60 is a multiple of 5 then we can answer yes without going further.

Paul Cockburn - 2 years, 8 months ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Oct 29, 2017

Let x x be the number of correct answers and y y the number of incorrect answers.

S = 4 x y = 5 x ( x + y ) = 5 x 90 = 300 ; x = 390 / 5 = 78. S = 4x - y = 5x - (x + y) = 5x - 90 = 300; \\ x = 390/5 = 78.

Sytse Durkstra
Oct 31, 2017

By increasing the number of correct answers by 1, the student's score is increased by 5, and similarly is reduced by 5 if the number of correct answers is reduced by 1. This means that the student's score must be divisible by 5.

300 is divisible by 5 and in the range of possible scores (between 0 and 450), so the answer is y e s \boxed{yes}

You also need to say that 300 is in the range of possible scores. 500 is divisible by 5, but it's not possible for a student to score 500 on the test.

Richard Desper - 3 years, 7 months ago

That is how I came to the conclusion. Each incorrect answer swings the final score by -5, and 300 is divisible by 5.

As for the comment by Richard regarding the range of possible scores, that is very important to note. However, for me, it was an unspoken given, and if the question did in fact ask about scoring 500 rather than 300, my sanity check would interrupt my process before even calculating.

So if you are giving a written academic solution, then it is certainly important to include that. As for me, I am not formally trained, and many givens, which logic would provide while deriving the answer on the fly, simply don't come to my front of mind awareness.

Thank you for specifying that, because I am here to take my 8th grade education and try and fill the gaps left by my leaving school.

Amber Baker - 3 years, 7 months ago
Timmy Vattapally
Oct 30, 2017

A quick intuitive "pattern-spotting" solution.

Marks if the student got:

  • 0 right: ( 0 ) × ( 4 ) ( 90 ) × ( 1 ) = 90 m a r k s (0)\times(4)-(90)\times(1)= -90 marks

  • 1 right: ( 1 ) × ( 4 ) ( 89 ) × ( 1 ) = 85 m a r k s (1)\times(4)-(89)\times(1)= -85 marks

  • 2 right: ( 2 ) × ( 4 ) ( 88 ) × ( 1 ) = 80 m a r k s (2)\times(4)-(88)\times(1)= -80 marks

...

  • 90 right ( 90 ) × ( 4 ) ( 0 ) × ( 1 ) = 360 m a r k s (90)\times(4)-(0)\times(1)= 360 marks

The pattern is easy to spot and intuitive. As the number of right answers increases, the student's mark increases by 5 each time.

Because the first term (-90 marks) is a multiple of 5, and the mark always increases by 5, the mark will always be a multiple of five.

Therefore, the student's mark can (only) be any multiple of 5 from -90 to 360.

Since 300 is a multiple of 5 between these two values, it is possible to "get a total score of 300." The answer is [Yes]

Aman Thegreat
Oct 21, 2017

Let number of correct answers be x x and number of wrong answers be y y .

The equation becomes

4 x y 4x-y = = 300 300

Now let us compute the g.c.d of the coefficient of x x and y y term [ 4 4 and 1 1 ]

We find it is 1 1 .

We know if RHS is divisible by g.c.d of the coefficients of the terms of a linear equation in two variables, then the equation will have integral solutions.

Hence such a configuration is indeed possible.

This problem places other requirements on x x and y y besides just being integers.

Otherwise, any integer score on the test would be possible, but that's not the case. (e.g. You can't score 1000 points or -1000 points on this test.)

Matthew Feig - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Indeed. The solution guaranteed by the properties of integers only guarantees an integral solution. It doesn't guarantee that x and y are integers between 0 and 90.

Richard Desper - 3 years, 7 months ago

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But, you can score negative marks. So my configuration is possible

Aman thegreat - 3 years, 3 months ago
Emmanuel David
Oct 30, 2017

We can get the equations

4 x y = 300 4x - y = 300 , so y = 4 x 300 y = 4x - 300

and

x + y = 90 x + y = 90 , so y = 90 x y = 90 - x

where x is the number of correct items, and y is the number of incorrect ones

Then 4 x 300 = 90 x 4x - 300 = 90 - x , through transitivity

Add x + 300 x + 300 to both sides,

5 x = 390 5x = 390

Divide both sides by 5,

x = 78 x = 78

and get y,

y = 90 ( 78 ) y = 90 - (78)

y = 12 y = 12

Therefore, the student can get a score of 300 when he got exactly 78 items correct and 12 items incorrect.

Somewolf Gaming
Nov 2, 2017

The highest score is 360 so it is possible to get a t o t a l total score of 300.

Is it possible to get a total score of 301?

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 7 months ago
Mario Trost
Nov 5, 2017

Pretty easy: only incorrect attempts get -1, so no attempt gets nothing, 75 questions answered correctly and 15 questions without answers leaves you with 300 points.

No attempt means no choice where every question must be attempted. So no attempt is not allowed.

Glenn Mungra - 3 years, 7 months ago
Amber Baker
Nov 5, 2017

I have a follow-up question:

Given that there are 90 questions, and each question answered correctly adds 4 to the final score and an incorrect answer deducts 1, but ALSO given that two of the 90 questions are worth 7 for a correct answer or -2 for an incorrect answer, how do you determine if a certain score is possible?

Dario Olivieri
Nov 5, 2017

Yes simply because if they get 100% right that is 90x4=360 which is >300

X+Y=90--------(1) 4*X-Y=300----(2)

5x=390 ∴x=79 x+y=90 ∴y=12

Matyáš Racek
Nov 5, 2017

Maximum points is 360. If you attemt every question, you lose 5 points for each missed one. So you can hit 300 because 60 is multiple of 5.

Ismael Soumahoro
Nov 4, 2017

it is a system of equations. Let's make x the number of questions right and y the number of questions wrong. For each question wrong, 1 point is taken away, and for each question right 4 points are added to the score. Now, the points added for the number of questions right and the points subtracted for the number of questions wrong have to come out to 300:

4 x 1 y = 300 4x-1y=300

In the second equations, as x is the number of questions right and y is the number of questions wrong, the total number of questions need to come out to 90:

x + y = 90 x+y=90

now to solve the equations, the y's cancel out and you add the x's as they have a common factor of x and the integers as they have a common factor of 1. then you get the equation:

5 x = 390 5x=390

then you divide by 5 on both sides:

x = 78 x=78

then you replace the x in the second equation and you get that y = 12 y=12 so yes it is, in fact, possible to get 300 points exactly.

Alois Mahdal
Nov 4, 2017

Highest possible score is when all answers are correct: 4 × 90 = 360 4 \times 90 = 360 . In order to get exactly 300, points, we need 60 points less.

Changing a single question from a correct one to an incorrect one means loss of 5 points, and since 60 is divisible by 5, we know there's whole number of answers we can flip, i.e. it is possible to hit exactly 300.

Phil Brubaker
Nov 3, 2017

To get a score = 300 (or more), it is obvious that if the student gets all 90 questions correct, they would score 360 (60x4), so the answer is yes, they can get a score greater than 300.

Hm, is it possible to get a score of exactly 301?

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 7 months ago

Oops, I did not interpret the question to be, "could he get "exactly" a score of 300", but simply a score greater than 300. Bad reading on my part. But, the wording of the question leaves a little bit of confusion, since "exactly" has to be inferred (as does "greater than").

Phil Brubaker - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks. I've added "exactly" to the problem statement.

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 7 months ago
Stephan Kern
Nov 3, 2017

4a - 1b = 300 and a + b = 90 therefor a = 90 - b

4 (90-b) - b = 300 360 - 4b - b = 300 360 - 5b = 300 5b = 60 b = 12 and a = 90 - 12 = 78

So, yes it is possible when a= 78 and b = 12

Daniel Filreis
Nov 3, 2017

I solved this using the “cheating” way known as graphing. Remember that the method doesn’t matter as long as it works. :)

We’re given two equations: 4x-y=300, and x+y=90, where x is the number of correct questions and y is the number of incorrect questions. By graphing these lines, we can see that they intersect at (78,12) - that is, 78 correct, 12 incorrect.

Just pointing out that, at the moment, the percentage of people who got it correct is the number of correct answers required.

Marnix De Jager
Nov 2, 2017

4X - 1Y = 300 , X being the correct answers, Y being incorrect and 300 being our goal.

X + Y = 90 , for the total amount of questions is 90

X = 90 - Y

4 (90 - Y) - 1Y = 360 - 5Y = 300

60 = 5Y

Y = 12

X = 90 - 12 = 78

so it is possible to get a score of 300.

Moheb Eskaross
Nov 1, 2017

so c = correct. i = incorrect. 4c - y = 300. c + y = 90. so we can write y as 90 - c. so if we substitute y for 90 - c we get: 4c -(90 - c) = 300. so 5c - 90 = 300. so 5c = 390. c = 390 / 5 = 78. since we got a whole number then its possible. c = 78. i = 12

Just Someone
Nov 1, 2017

x = number of correct answers; whole number; 0 <= x <= 90 4 x -1 (90-x) = 300 5x = 390 is there such x (within bounds) so that sentence is true? yes.

Regis Kopper
Nov 1, 2017

( 90 n ) × 4 n = 300 (90-n)\times 4 - n = 300

360 4 n n = 300 360 - 4n - n = 300

5 n = 300 360 -5n = 300 - 360

n = 60 5 = 12 n = \frac{60}{5} = 12

90 12 = 78 90-12=78

Thus, 78 correct answers.

78 × 4 12 = 300 78\times 4 - 12 = 300

Suz Learns
Nov 1, 2017

Let x = number of incorrect answers.

Four points per #correct answer (which is total answers minus incorrect answers) minus one point per incorrect answer needs to equal 300.

4(90-x) - x = 300

360 - 4x - x = 300

360 - 5x = 300 60 = 5x x = 12 90 - x = 78

78 correct answers 12 incorrect answers

Tan Sze Hian
Oct 31, 2017
  • Suppose the number of correct answer is n n , number of incorrect answer be 90 n 90-n
  • For a total of 300 marks, 4n+(-1)(90-n)=300
  • Solving it obtain:
  • 4 n 90 + n = 300 4n-90+n=300
  • 5 n = 390 5n=390
  • n = 78 n=78
  • Thus, obtaining 78 78 correct answer result in 300 marks
Leo Quirino
Oct 31, 2017

4x + (-1y) = 300 Y=90-x 4x -90 + x = 300 X = 78 Y = 12 78^4=312 12^-1=-12

Oliver Foggin
Oct 31, 2017

If the student answers x answers correctly and we assume they score 300. The we get the following equation...

4x - (90 - x) = 300

And if we can show that x is an integer between 0 and 90 then it is possible.

4x - 90 + x = 300

5x = 390

x = 78

So, yes, it is possible. If the student answers 78 correctly and 12 incorrectly.

Iman Imani
Oct 31, 2017

If x were the number of right answers then the number of wrong answers will be y=90-x

4×x-1×(90-x)=300.....x=78 ; y=12

Haydar Sin
Oct 30, 2017

90 questions all answered correctly gives 360 points. A wrong answer would reduce 5 points from that. 12 wrong answers would take us down to 300 points. That is 78 correct and 12 wrong answers.

4 c ( 90 c ) = 300 4c - (90 - c) = 300

4 c 90 + c = 300 4c - 90 + c = 300

5 c 90 = 300 5c - 90 = 300

5 c = 390 5c = 390

c = 78 c = 78

What is c c ?

Munem Shahriar - 3 years, 7 months ago
Lulu Stelck
Oct 29, 2017

75 X 4 = 300

For every right answer after that 4 wrong answers must be made to keep the total at 300. This makes groups of five attempts. 90 - 75 = 15 and 5 goes into 15 evenly, making the solution possible.

Approach 1

Suppose X X is the total amount of marks that can be obtained in a 90 90 -question multiple-choice test where a student earns 4 points for a correct answer and is penalised one point for an incorrect answer, and let x x be the number of correct answers out of 90 90 . Then there must be 90 x 90-x incorrect answers, and X X must satisfy the following equation:

X = 4 x ( 90 x ) = 5 x 90 = 5 ( x 18 ) X = 4x-(90-x) = 5x-90 = 5(x-18)

Integer solutions can only be obtained precisely when X X is a multiple of 5 5 , and since 300 300 is a multiple of 5 5 we can conclude with our desired result.

Approach 2

Building on from Approach 1, we can simply substitute X = 300 X = 300 and obtain our desired result from there. So, we have that

5 ( x 18 ) = 300 x 18 = 60 x = 78 5(x-18) = 300 \Rightarrow x-18 = 60 \Rightarrow x=78

and thus we conclude with our desired result that it is possible to obtain a mark of 300 in this test.

Zain Majumder
Oct 29, 2017

If the total number of questions the student got correct was c c , the number of questions they got incorrect would be 90 c 90-c . The total number of points is 4 × 4\times the number of correct answers plus 1 × -1\times the number of incorrect answers.

4 c ( 90 c ) = 300 4c-(90-c) = 300

5 c 90 = 300 5c-90 = 300

5 c = 390 c = 78 5c = 390 \rightarrow \boxed{c=78}

Sumukh Bansal
Oct 26, 2017

Let x be the number of correct answers and y be the number of wrong answers

x+y=90

x=90-y

Solving

4x-y=300

4(90-y)-y=300

360-4y-y=300

5y=60

y=12

So,it is possible to get 300 marks

300/4=75 90-75=15 15 mode 4 = 3 = 15 -(3*4) that All ;)

CREACH ALAIN - 3 years, 7 months ago

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