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Algebra Level 5

a + b + c = 6 a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 78 a 3 + b 3 + c 3 = 420 a 5 + b 5 + c 5 = x a+b+c=6\\ { a }^{ 2 }+{ b }^{ 2 }+{ c }^{ 2 }=78\\ { a }^{ 3 }+{ b }^{ 3 }+{ c }^{ 3 }=420\\ { a }^{ 5 }+{ b }^{ 5 }+{ c }^{ 5 }= x

Find x m o d 50 {x} \mod{50} .


The answer is 6.

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2 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Nov 17, 2014

I used the Newton's Sums to solve this.

Let: P 1 = a + b + c P 2 = a 2 + b 2 + c 2 P 3 = a 3 + b 3 + c 3 . . . \quad P_1 = a + b + c \quad P_2 = a^2+b^2+c^2 \quad P_3 = a^3+b^3+c^3 \quad ...

S 1 = a + b + c S 2 = a b + b c + c a S 3 = a b c \quad \quad \quad S_1 = a+b+c \quad S_2 = ab+bc+ca \quad S_3 = abc

Then,

P 1 = S 1 = 6 P_1 = S_1 = 6

P 2 = S 1 P 1 2 S 2 = 78 = 6 × 6 2 S 2 S 2 = 21 P_2 = S_1 P_1 - 2S_2 = 78 = 6 \times 6 - 2S_2 \quad \Rightarrow S_2 = -21

P 3 = S 1 P 2 S 2 P 1 + 3 S 3 = 420 = 6 × 78 + 21 × 6 + 3 S 3 S 3 = 58 P_3 = S_1 P_2 - S_2 P_1 + 3S_3 = 420 = 6 \times 78 + 21 \times 6 + 3S_3 \quad \Rightarrow S_3 = - 58

P 4 = S 1 P 3 S 2 P 2 + S 3 P 1 = 6 × 420 + 21 × 78 58 × 6 = 3810 P_4 = S_1 P_3 - S_2 P_2 + S_3P_1 = 6\times 420 + 21\times 78 - 58\times 6 = 3810

P 5 = S 1 P 4 S 2 P 3 + S 3 P 2 = 6 × 3810 + 21 × 420 58 × 78 = 27156 = x P_5 = S_1 P_4 - S_2 P_3 + S_3P_2 = 6\times 3810 + 21\times 420 - 58\times 78 = 27156 = x

Therefore, x m o d 50 = 27156 m o d 50 = 6 \quad x \mod {50} = 27156 \mod {50} = \boxed{6}

a,b,c are roots of x 3 6 x 2 21 x + 58 x^3 -6x^2 -21x+58

Aareyan Manzoor - 6 years, 6 months ago

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Exactly !! This is what I've done !!

Akshat Sharda - 5 years, 6 months ago

s1=6,s2=-21,s3=-58 ,so we have x^3-6x-21x+58=0.roots of this equation are solutions for a,b,c. It's obvious x=2 one solution so we can divide with x-2. Then we get x x-4x-29=0,and other two solutions are 2±√33. (d+e)^5+(d-e)^5=(d^5+5d^4 e+10d^3 e^2+10d^2 e^3+5de^4+e^5)+(d^5-5d^4 e+10d^3 e^2-10d^2 e^3+5de^4-e^5)=2 (d^5+10d^3 e^2+5de^4) and for d=2,e=√33 we get (d+e)^5+(d-e)^5=2 (32+80x33+10x33x33)=2 (33-1+33x80+33x330)=2 (33x411-1)=27124 Now we add 2^5 and result is a^5+b^5+c^5=27124+32=27156 27156=50*5430+6,so reminder is 6.

Nikola Djuric - 6 years, 6 months ago

Is this equation worth learning in depth?

William Asai - 6 years, 6 months ago

Nice solution! I like your use of Newton sums to solve this problem. Very nice indeed.

Seth Lovelace - 6 years, 6 months ago

It's awesome @Chew-Seong Cheong !!!

Shubhendra Singh - 6 years, 6 months ago

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Just sharing what I know.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 6 months ago
Soo Young Choi
Nov 17, 2014

There is a famous recurrence formula. a^(n+3)+b^(n+3)+c^(n+3)=(a+b+c)(a^(n+2)+b^(n+2)+c^(n+2))-(ab+bc+ca)(a^(n+1)=b^(n+1)+c^(n+1))+ abc(a^(n)+b^(n)+c^(n)) The rest is just plain arithmetic.

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