Is it necessary to be equal?

Algebra Level 1

Does the condition imply x = y x = y ?


x + 6 x = y + 6 y x + \dfrac{6}{x} = y + \dfrac{6}{y}

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x = y x = y

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Alazrabed .
Jun 26, 2020

Because f ( x ) = x + 6 x f(x) = x + \frac{6}{x} is similar to g ( x ) = 6 x g(x) = \frac{6}{x} when x x is small and tends to h ( x ) = x h(x) = x when x x tends to infinity, we can graph f f as follows:

f f is in green and its asymptote h ( x ) = x h(x) = x is the blue line. Given that graph, it is clear that, although (and by definition), one given input of f f will have at most one output, the inverse isn't true. In other words, one output of f f can have two inputs:

Here L = 10 L = 10 (in red) intersects f ( x ) f(x) at x = 5 19 x = 5 - \sqrt{19} and x = 5 + 19 x = 5 + \sqrt{19} .

Hence, x + 6 x = y + 6 y x + \frac{6}{x} = y + \frac{6}{y} does not imply x = y x = y .

Wow - very clever!

Hayden Park - 11 months, 1 week ago

Let x + 6 x = y + 6 y = k x+\dfrac {6}{x}=y+\dfrac {6}{y}=k .

Then x = k ± k 2 24 2 , y = k ± k 2 24 2 x=\dfrac {k\pm \sqrt {k^2-24}}{2},y=\dfrac {k\pm \sqrt {k^2-24}}{2}

So, there are two possibilities :

(i) x = y = k + k 2 24 2 x=y=\dfrac {k+\sqrt {k^2-24}}{2}

or x = y = k k 2 24 2 x=y=\dfrac {k-\sqrt {k^2-24}}{2}

(ii) x = k + k 2 24 2 x=\dfrac {k+\sqrt {k^2-24}}{2} ,

y = k k 2 24 2 y=\dfrac {k-\sqrt {k^2-24}}{2} ,

x y x\neq y

Or, x = k k 2 24 2 x=\dfrac {k-\sqrt {k^2-24}}{2} ,

y = k + k 2 24 2 y=\dfrac {k+\sqrt {k^2-24}}{2} ,

x y x\neq y .

x 2 + 6 x = y 2 + 6 y \frac{x^2+6}{x}=\frac{y^2+6}{y} y x 2 + 6 y = x y 2 + 6 x yx^2+6y=xy^2+6x y x 2 x y 2 = 6 x 6 y yx^2-xy^2=6x-6y y x ( x y ) = 6 ( x y ) yx(x-y)=6(x-y) If x y x\ne y : y x = 6 yx=6 , so the number of solutions \infty . If x = y x=y : 0 = 0 0=0 , so the number of solutions \infty .

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Set any value of k 24 k\geq \sqrt {24} , you will get a set of solutions for x x and y y . So obviously there are infinite solutions, both for x = y x=y and x y x\neq y .

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Yes, you are right. I posted my solution there, because when I solved this problem the answer was bad.

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Zhiqian Chen
Aug 7, 2020

6 + 6 6 = 1 + 6 1 6+\frac{6}{6}=1+\frac{6}{1} but 6 1 6\not=1 .

David Vreken
Jun 24, 2020

The first equation can be rearranged to x y 2 ( x 2 + 6 ) y + 6 x = 0 xy^2 - (x^2 + 6)y + 6x = 0 , which by the quadratic equation leads to y = ( x 2 + 6 ) ± ( x 2 6 ) 2 x y = \frac{(x^2 + 6) \pm (x^2 - 6)}{2x} , which is y = x y = x or y = 6 x y = \frac{6}{x} .

Using the second solution, some counter-examples (in the form of ( x , y ) (x, y) ) to show that x x and y y are not necessarily equal are ( 1 , 6 ) (1, 6) , ( 2 , 3 ) (2, 3) , ( 3 , 2 ) (3, 2) , ( 6 , 1 ) (6, 1) , etc.

I solved it, but chose Can't be determined. I wish to know if my thinking is correct:

Taking x , y 0 x,y \neq 0 ,

x + 6 x = y + 6 y x+\dfrac{6}{x}=y+\dfrac{6}{y}

x y = 6 y 6 x x-y=\dfrac{6}{y}-\dfrac{6}{x}

x y = 6 ( x y ) x y x-y=\dfrac{6(x-y)}{xy}

Case 1

If x y = 0 x-y=0 ,

then the equation is satisfied.

Case 2

If x y 0 x-y \neq 0 , then it becomes

6 x y = 1 \dfrac{6}{xy}=1

x y = 6 xy=6

then also equation is satisfied.

\implies x = y x=y is not necessary.

Vinayak Srivastava - 11 months, 2 weeks ago

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Yes, it looks to me like that reasoning is correct.

David Vreken - 11 months, 2 weeks ago

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Thank you Sir!

Vinayak Srivastava - 11 months, 2 weeks ago

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