Is this what you expect from expectations?

The daily problem for Feb 27 asks which of two special dice (1,1,3,3,5,5) and (2,2,2,2,5,5) has a better chance of winning if both dice are rolled simultaneously and the higher roll wins (In case of a tie, you roll both dice again.)

Notice that both dice have the same expected value.

Suppose we have two six-sided dice, A and B. You are not told what numbers are on the faces, but you are told that A has a greater chance of winning than B.

Let E A E_A and E B E_B be the expected values of the rolls of A and B respectively.

Which of the following is true?

E B 2 E A E_B\ \le 2E_A There is no relation between E A E_A and E B E_B that always holds. E A > E B E_A\ > E_B E B 6 E A E_B \le 6 E_A E A E B E_A \ge E_B

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1 solution

Varsha Dani
Feb 27, 2019

Let A be the die ( 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 ) (1,1,1,1,1,1) and B be the die ( 0 , 0 , 0 , 0 , 0 , b ) (0,0,0,0,0, b) , where b > 1 b>1 . Then A has a 5/6 chance to win. But E A = 1 E_A = 1 and E B = b / 6 E_B = b/6 . Choosing different values for b b , e.g. b = 2 , b = 6 , b = 7 , b = 37 b=2, b=6, b=7, b=37 we see that there is no order relation between E A E_A and E B E_B that holds in all cases.

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