It All Came From Pencils 2

Geometry Level 1

Hazri prepared another two pencils and he aligned them as shown in the diagram above.

The two pencils form an angle which is labelled y y ( A C D \angle ACD ) in the diagram. If the angle of the pencil tip A A is 4 0 40^\circ and the angle of the pencil tip E C D ECD is 3 0 30^\circ , then what is the value of y y ?

(Assume the pencils have a rectangular body and have their tips resembling isosceles triangles)


The answer is 170.

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14 solutions

Prasit Sarapee
Oct 17, 2015

as seen that the red line is parallel to EH nd DI.....then red line will bisect the angle ECD.....then ECD will be 15 degree nd not 10 degree.??????

PraTeek Verma - 4 years, 1 month ago

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Could you prove that the red line is parallel to EH ?

Zuriel Aquino - 4 years ago
Anh Đức Trần
Oct 16, 2015

If we draw a line that make a right angle with the red pencil, we have a pentagon. Since the total angle of a N-angled polygon is (n-2). 18 0 o 180^{o} , that of a pentagon will be 54 0 o 540^{o} .Therefore, the green angle is (540-90-90-40)/2 = 16 0 o 160^{o} . The total of green + yellow + blue = 36 0 o 360^{o} , so the blue will be 17 0 o 170^{o}

NICE!!! Simple geometry applied!

Gerald Schwesinger - 3 years, 10 months ago

Genius ^^ :D The Only Answer , I understood thx

MuĦāmměd Àtef Abdoullah - 5 years, 4 months ago

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There have been numerous ways, and i just choose a way to make it visible. thx

Anh Đức Trần - 5 years, 4 months ago
Kenneth Tan
Aug 21, 2014

We have A B = A C AB=AC , C E = C D CE=CD and B F C G BF\parallel CG , E H D I EH\parallel DI .

Suppose A = a \angle A=a and E C D = b \angle ECD=b .

Connect B C BC , then A B C \triangle ABC is isosceles, A C B = 9 0 a 2 \angle ACB=90^\circ-\frac{a}{2} .

Since B F C G BF\parallel CG , so B C G = 9 0 \angle BCG=90^\circ , hence A C G = 18 0 a 2 \angle ACG=180^\circ-\frac{a}{2} .

Thus, y = 18 0 + a 2 b y=180^\circ+\frac{a}{2}-b

Now, substitute a = 4 0 a=40^\circ and b = 3 0 b=30^\circ you would get y = 17 0 y=170^\circ .

the answer is 160

EngAhmed Elssd - 5 years, 8 months ago

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answer = 170

consider 1 rotation = 360°

y=360-{(angles from red)+(yellow)}

y=360-{(70+90)+30}

y=360-190

y=170degrees

Aries Ramada - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Can you prove that the red portion compose of a right angle? It is not given in the graph, and maybe it is colored slanted.

Jerry Jia - 5 years, 8 months ago

OK I AM SORRY THIS IS THE ANSWER

EngAhmed Elssd - 5 years, 7 months ago
Kho Yen Hong
May 19, 2017

As \triangle ABC is isosceles,

\angle ACB = 180 40 2 \dfrac{180-40}{2} = 7 0 70^\circ

As \angle BCE is right angle

y = 360 - 90 - 30 - 70 = 17 0 170^\circ

Fabio Bittar
Oct 16, 2015

Simple observation is enough to solve this. Sum of internal angles of a triangle equals 180 degrees; Angle BAC is 40, leaving 140 degrees OR 70 degrees for each of the 'base' angles. BCE is 90 degrees. 70 plus 90 and 30 leaves you with 190 degrees. ACD is 170.

Lisandro Rainone
Jul 13, 2018

Betty BellaItalia
Apr 26, 2017

Mick Martucci
Feb 24, 2017

if we extend line CG in the direction of the pencil tip A to a point J and bisect angle BAC we see that angle ACJ is 20 and angle JCD is 150 due to the angles on one side of line JG total 180 so angle y (angle ACD) = ACJ +JCD = 170

Kino Bacaltos
Jun 3, 2018

Triangle ABC is an isosceles triangle, so with 1 angle given, you can already tell all angles of the triangle. Lets make angle s which = 70 deg, because (180-40)/2 = 90 - 20 = 70. Line BC must be perpendicular to Line CE, because if not, the pencil will look bent or the triangle would not be isosceles, which means angle BCE = 90 deg. Angle ECD is given already, so angle ACD must be 90+70+30 = 190 deg. Angle y and angle ACD add up to 360, since they are complimenting each other. We can get angle y by subtracting by ACD. y + 190 deg = 360 deg, so y + 190 - 190 deg = 360 - 190 = 170 = y. there.

Kaustubh Khulbe
Jan 15, 2018

You can mace a line from C to B. Since A = 40, the other two angles are equal(since the two sides are equal) making each angle 70. Then, the angle right above it is 90 since line BC is perpendicular to line CG. Then yo would simply perform 360 - (70 + 90 + 30) = 360 - 190 = 170.

Awnon Bhowmik
Feb 4, 2016

Notice the shape of the pencil. If we try to focus on the 2D shape, we see that it is an irregular pentagon. Now we know that the sum of angles of a pentagon is (2 5-4) right angles = (10-4) 90=6*90=540

according to the 2D picture F = G = 9 0 \angle F = \angle G\ = 90 ^\circ . Also it should be obvious that A B = A C AB=AC , this part of a pencil is always symmetric, that's what we are used to writing with. That makes A B F \angle ABF and A C G \angle ACG equal (Connect B C BC and think about the figure, you'll notice).

Now let A B F = A C G = x \angle ABF = \angle ACG = x we have x + x + 90 + 90 + 40 = 540 2 x = 320 x = 160 \\x+x+90+90+40=540 \\ 2x=320 \\ x=160

A C E + D C E + A C D = 360 160 + 30 + y = 360 y + 190 = 360 y = 170 \angle ACE + \angle DCE + \angle ACD = 360 \\160+30+y=360\\y+190=360\\y=170 [solution]

Jay Khatri
Apr 26, 2021

170 because it is less than 180 and more than 160

Puja Paul
Jun 20, 2018

Here, angleBCE=90 degree. From the triangle ABC, we get, AB=AC. So, angle ABC=angle ACB. So angle ACB=(180-40)/2 degree. angle ACB=70 degree. Now y=360- (70+90+30). So, y=170 degree

Ken Collins
Oct 16, 2015

The picture to the left was helped because of the right angle formed at the base of the pencil tip.

360 - (70 + 90 + 30) = 170

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