It All Came From Pencils

Geometry Level 2

Hazri aligned two identical pencils in such a way that the pencil tips are stuck together as shown in the 2D (flat) diagram above.

If the angles formed by the pencil tips in the 2D diagram are both 4 0 40 ^ \circ , then what is the value of x x in degrees?

(Assume the pencils have a rectangular body and have their tips resembling isosceles triangles)


The answer is 40.

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A B = B D a n d B D = B C < B A D = < A D B = 70 ° a n d < B C D = < B D C = 70 ° < A D F = C D G = 90 ° x + 90 ° + 90 ° + 70 ° + 70 ° = 360 ° x = 40 ° \quad \quad \quad \quad AB=BD\quad and\quad BD=BC\quad \quad \\ \quad \quad \quad <BAD=<ADB=70°\\ and\quad <BCD=<BDC=70°\\ \quad \quad \quad \quad <ADF=CDG=90°\\ \therefore \quad x+90°+90°+70°+70°=360°\Rightarrow x=40°

It's very nice solution. I liked it really.

Chandan Singh - 6 years, 10 months ago

perfect solution just also mention the precise information about steps

Meet Makadia - 6 years, 9 months ago

Where is the diagram

Sushant Saryal - 5 years, 2 months ago

how it done that <BAD=<ADB=70*

Arti Maurya - 6 years, 9 months ago

what type of triangle is it.

if 2 side are equal

Akil Arasan - 5 years, 8 months ago

Isosceles triangle i think

Carl Cristobal - 5 years, 8 months ago

nice thought

Hasibur Bepul - 6 years, 10 months ago

Simple and easy solution, I like it !

Hon Ming Rou - 6 years, 9 months ago

really nice solution <bcd=90 bcoz in triangle abd <b=40 & ab=bd hence remaining 2 angles must be equal and equal to 70

Siva Kumar Celeron - 6 years, 7 months ago

I like it............

Kawsar Ahmed - 5 years, 8 months ago

Simply, make a triangle which pass through the center of the pencils. Each pencil have now an angle of 20 (you cut it in half), so x=2*20=40 degree

damien G - 5 years ago

I don't understand... Why did u equal the sum to 360 degree?

Suraj Maidur - 5 years, 8 months ago

Because around a point all angles sum up to 360 degrees.

Apeksha Kakkar - 5 years, 7 months ago

I know I have tough this

Chazard Zannaw - 5 years, 6 months ago

good solution ^^

Markjefferson Gutierez - 6 years, 9 months ago
Amir Hossain
Oct 9, 2015

That's exactly how I did it.

Danilo Nishimura - 5 years, 8 months ago
Ilya Andreev
Aug 16, 2014

Imagine rays coming out of B passing through the center of each pencil. Obviously, they form an angle similar to x x as the rays are parallel to DF and DG. Moreover, each of the rays bisects corresponding tip of the pencil. Now we just add the inner bisected parts, which give us the answer: 2 0 o + 2 0 o = 4 0 o 20^{o}+20^{o}=40^{o} .

Good idea.

Muhib Nur - 6 years, 9 months ago

40 Degrees

Civil Nasir - 6 years, 10 months ago
Daryl Yeow
Aug 15, 2014
  1. Draw lines from A to D and D to C
  2. ABD and BCD will be isosceles triangles
  3. angle BDA and angle BDC will be 70 degrees
  4. angle GDC and angle FDA will be 90 degrees

SO.... 360 - (90 + 90 + 70 + 70) = 40 degree

Prasit Sarapee
Oct 9, 2015

Achille 'Gilles'
Oct 9, 2015

Just for the fun of expanding the thinking...

Use 9 pencils (9 x 40° = 360°) and you will form a full circle made of its... and you will have the same angle x repeated 9 times. So if you form the same amount of angles than you have pencil the answer will be simply 40°.

Maia Parkin
Oct 25, 2015

I'm not great at maths so I don't understand what half of you are putting! I just did 40 + 40 divided by 2, I don't know if that's right, but that's what I did

Alarna Brockley
Oct 20, 2015

Guys it's just your circle theorems. The the big angle, 40+40= 80 is then divided by 2 to get your answer of the smaller one. 80/2 = 40

S M
Oct 5, 2015

Another similar pencil fits exactly in between these two pencils. This can be said by considering the bisectors of x. And, it turns out that they are equal to 2 0 o 20^o and 2 0 o 20^o , summing up to 4 0 o 40^o .

Simple - Symmetricity .

Mashruk Anim
Oct 10, 2015

<BAD=<BDA=<BDC=<BCD (isosceles triangles) Hence,<BDA=<BDC=70°. Thus, <BDA + <BDC + <CDG + <ADF + <x = 360° => 70° + 70° + 90° + 90° + <x = 360° => <x = 360° - 320° .•. x = 40°

Rekarlo Jäger
Oct 9, 2015

Imagine a pencil tip on it's side like a triangle... The angle of the tip is congruent to the angle of the sharpened space (alternate interior angles)... The thing is, the tip's at the center, so this angle is shared by both ends (20 degrees)... Combining the sharpened space of both pencils will be 40 degrees, same as the space they formed above...

Tanvir Kaisar
Oct 9, 2015

There are 360/40 = 9 pencils that could fit like this in a circle. Between these 9 pencils are 9 x-degree openings. So, 9*x = 360 => x = 40 degrees.

Ralf Misador
Aug 27, 2014

Draw a line at the center of each pencil parallel to the body of the each pencil intersecting the tips of the pencils. Notice that the drawn lines are parallel to lines FD and Line DO. Now, also notice that the drawn lines are the halves of each of the following pencils. That gives the answer.

Chloe Fitzpatrick
Aug 23, 2014

Well a straight line adds up to 180 degrees so think about the two pencils having a line between so their split so half of 80 is 40 as u got a split line that took the 100 degrees

i love ur solution. it's easy and logical

Geewee Flores - 6 years, 9 months ago
Youssef Hassan F
Dec 13, 2015

Marc Ballon
Nov 1, 2015

A 2D pencil forms a pentagon. (Sum of Internal angles=540) So, <BDF=y 540=2y+40+180 y=160 Forming a circle centered in D. The sum of the internal angles is 360. 360=x+160+160 x=40

Suman Jain
Oct 22, 2015

We can extend these two line backward than the angle formed by extended rays will be equal to x , than by taking BC as a arc x will be half of 80 degree.

Ebi Raja
Oct 10, 2015

between two pencils you can see the gap which resembles like big pencil tip and so it should also have same 40* :p .. helpful???

Marco Lopez
Oct 9, 2015

Easy the triangles ABD and DBC are equals and If you look at the triangle FDG is equal to the triangles ABD and DBC. Thus, If the triangles are equals the angles are equals, x = 40 degrees

Shubham Agrawal
Oct 9, 2015

Lets assume that E and F meet at infinity and G and H meet at infinity. Then <AED or < AFD =0. then < BAE = < BDF=160. (sum of angles in quadrilateral is 360 and by symmetry <BAE=<BDF).Similarly for other pencil. Then at point D, <BDF + < BDG + < FDG = 360. => x=40.

Govind Rathi
Oct 8, 2015

All angles of a pentagon sum up to 180*3.

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