It isn't easy for f(x) to divide f(2x^3+x)

Algebra Level 5

Find the number of polynomials f ( x ) f(x) that satisfy all of the following conditions:

  1. f ( x ) f(x) is a monic polynomial;
  2. f ( x ) f(x) has degree 1000 1000 ;
  3. f ( x ) f(x) has integer coefficients;
  4. f ( x ) f(x) divides f ( 2 x 3 + x ) f(2x^3+ x) .


The answer is 501.

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Andrea Marino
Apr 26, 2014

<p> To Anubhav Singh: I think it is not enough! There could be two polynomials p , q p,q s.t. p ( x ) p ( 2 x 3 + x ) , q ( x ) q ( 2 x 3 + x ) p(x) \nmid p(2x^3+x), q(x) \nmid q(2x^3+x) , but p ( x ) q ( x ) p ( 2 x 3 + x ) q ( 2 x 3 + x ) p(x) \cdot q(x) \mid p(2x^3+x) \cdot q(2x^3+x) , or am I wrong? </p>

<p> Factorize p ( x ) p(x) in R [ x ] \mathbb{R}[x] : it has some factors of the form ( x s n ) (x-s_n) and others of the form ( x 2 + a n x + b n ) (x^2+a_nx + b_n) . If p ( x ) p ( 2 x 3 + x ) p(x) \mid p(2x^3+x) , for every solution s n s_n it must exists some s m s_m such that s m 3 + s m s n = 0 s_m^3+s_m-s_n = 0 (*). </p>

<p><p>Let f ( x ) : R R f(x) : \mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R} such that f ( s m ) = s n f(s_m) = s_n iff s m 3 + s m s n = 0 s_m^3+s_m-s_n = 0 (that is f ( x ) = 2 x 3 + x f(x) = 2x^3+x ). We stated that every s i s_i has an image: for pidgeonhole there exists n , k n,k s.t. f k ( s n ) = s n f^k(s_n)=s_n . But since f ( x ) { > x , iff x > 0 = x , iff x = 0 < x , iff x < 0 f(x) \begin{cases} >x, & \mbox{ iff } x>0 \\ =x, &\mbox{ iff } x=0 \\ < x, & \mbox{ iff } x <0 \end{cases} it is s n = 0 s_n=0 . Now we want to show by contradiction that all the solutions equal to 0. Suppose there are some nonzero solutions: one of them must be the counterimage of 0, because there cannot be "cycles" among nonzero solutions. So it satisfies 2 s 3 + s = 0 2s^3+s=0 which has just 0 as real solution, absurd. On balance, p ( x ) p(x) has just 0 as real solution.</p></p>

<p>First, we notice that x 2 + a x + b ( 2 x 3 + x ) 2 + a ( 2 x 3 + x ) + b x^2+ax+b \mid (2x^3+x)^2+a(2x^3+x)+b iff a = 0 , b = 1 a=0,b=1 (by doing the division). Now we have to get into C [ x ] \mathbb{C}[x] to deal with the problem I stated at the beginning: we want to show that there are no quadratic polynomials q 1 , , q m q_1, \ldots, q_m s.t. q i ( x ) q i ( 2 x 3 + x ) q_i(x) \nmid q_i(2x^3+x) but q 1 ( x ) q m ( x ) q 1 ( 2 x 3 + x ) q m ( 2 x 3 + x ) q_1(x) \cdot \ldots \cdot q_m(x) \mid q_1(2x^3+x) \cdot \ldots \cdot q_m(2x^3+x) . I got hard difficulties here, but I eventually came up with a (very ugly) conclusion. With some calculation, one can notices that f ( a + b i ) 2 = [ 4 a 4 + a 2 ( 8 b 2 + 4 ) + ( 1 2 b ) 2 ] a + b i 2 |f(a+bi)|^2 = [4a^4+a^2(8b^2+4) +(1-2b)^2 ] \cdot |a+bi|^2 . Assume that the ugly factor is > 1 > 1 : there must be by pidgeonhole some s , k s, k s.t. f k ( s ) = s f^k(s) = s , but this is a contradiction because s 2 = f k ( s ) 2 > s 2 |s|^2 = |f^k(s)|^2 > |s|^2 . If a 1 |a| \ge 1 , the factor 4 \ge 4 , thus a = 0 a=0 (because it is an integer). Then ( 1 2 b ) 2 = 1 (1-2b)^2 = 1 yields b = 0 , 1 b=0,1 ; b = 0 b=0 gives the zero real solution, b = 1 b=1 gives x = i x=i , which has to appear with its conjugate i -i in factorization of p ( x ) p(x) . So the polynomial has the form x 2 n ( x 2 + 1 ) 500 n x^{2n} (x^2+1)^{500-n} , with n n varying from 0 0 to 500 500 .</p>

<p>(*) It is not possible that ( x s n ) (x-s_n) divides a quadratic factor because it has no real solutions. </p>

</p>Some (rough) generalizations.</p> <p>1. We can state this general fact looking at the first part.Let p , q p,q be two polynomials in R [ x ] \mathbb{R}[x] , and S p , S q , S q S_p, S_q, S_q^* respectively the set of real solutions of p ( x ) , q ( x ) , q ( x ) s p(x), q(x), q(x)-s with s S q s \in S_q . Thus, If p ( x ) p ( q ( x ) ) p(x) \mid p(q(x)) , and S q S q S_q^* \subseteq S_q then S p S q S_p \subseteq S_q . For example, one can show in this way that if p ( x ) p ( 1 + q 2 ( x ) ) p(x) \mid p( 1+q^2(x) ) then p ( x ) p(x) has no real solution, or that if p ( x ) p ( ( x 2 n + 1 + 1 ) 2 ) p(x) \mid p( (x^{2n+1}+1)^2 ) then p ( x ) p(x) has only the 1 -1 real solution, and so on. </p> <p>2. Even the second part offers a generalization. Let p , q p,q be two polynomials in Z [ x ] \mathbb{Z}[x] such that p ( x ) p ( x q ( x ) ) p(x) \mid p(x\cdot q(x)) . We notice that x q ( x ) 2 = x 2 q ( x ) 2 | xq(x) |^2 = |x|^2 |q(x)|^2 . Recall that if x x is a solution of both p ( x q ( x ) ) p(x \cdot q(x) ) and p ( x ) p(x) then q ( x ) 2 1 |q(x)|^2 \le 1 , because of the considerations we did before. Furthermore q ( x ) 2 = c 2 + d 2 0 |q(x)|^2 =c^2+d^2 \ge 0 for some c , d Z c,d \in \mathbb{Z} . Thus, the only solutions of p ( x ) p(x) are the solutions in Z [ i ] \mathbb{Z}[i] of { [ q ( a + b i ) ] = 0 , [ q ( a + b i ) ] = 0 \begin{cases}\Im[q(a+bi)] & = & 0, \\ \Re[q(a+bi)] & = & 0 \end{cases} or { [ q ( a + b i ) ] = 1 , [ q ( a + b i ) ] = 0 \begin{cases}\Im[q(a+bi)] & = & 1, \\ \Re[q(a+bi)] & = & 0 \end{cases} or { [ q ( a + b i ) ] = 0 , [ q ( a + b i ) ] = 1 \begin{cases}\Im[q(a+bi)] & = & 0, \\ \Re[q(a+bi)] & = & 1 \end{cases}

Not sure the argument to close the loophole related to the product of quadratic factors holds, e.g. the expression for f ( a + i b ) 2 |f(a+ib)|^2 does not hold for i -i .

Here's an outline for another alternative attempt. Suppose x 1 + x_1^+ and x 1 x_1^- are the zeros of p 1 ( x ) = x 2 + a 1 x + b 1 p_1(x) = x^2 + a_1 x + b_1 and likewise for a second factor. If p 1 ( x ) p_1(x) does not divide p 1 ( 2 x 3 + x ) p_1(2x^3+x) and likewise for p 2 ( x ) p_2(x) , the only way the product of p 1 ( x ) p_1(x) and p 2 ( x ) p_2(x) can divide p 1 ( 2 x 3 + x ) p 2 ( 2 x 3 + x ) p_1(2x^3+x) p_2(2x^3+x) is if 2 x 1 ± + x 1 ± 2x_1^{\pm} + x_1^{\pm} is a root of p 2 ( x ) p_2(x) and the other way around.

Next step is to calculate explicitly the zeros of the two quadratic polynomials, as well as their image under f ( x ) f(x) . All of these end up in a form A ± B A \pm B , so in order for them to be equal, we need to equate the A parts and the B parts separately. The A part leads to the conclusion that a 2 a_2 is an integer multiple of a 1 a_1 (namely a 2 = a 1 ( 2 a 1 2 6 b 1 1 ) a_2=a_1(2a_1^2 - 6 b_1 -1) if I'm not mistaken), but also the reciprocal statement should hold. Together, this means that a 1 = a 2 a_1=a_2 . A similar line of reasoning from the B part leads to the conclusion that the discriminants of the two polynomials should be equal, which combined means that p 1 = p 2 p_1=p_2 .

So, it looks like our initial assumption is false and the loophole is closed.

Peter B. - 3 years, 4 months ago

Wait, who is Anubhav Singh? The solution for this problem is a response to him. Could someone repost the original solution? I don't understand why the answer is 501 and since the "solution" is a response to the actual solution, I don't know how I was supposed to solve this problem.

Zoltan Torok - 3 years, 3 months ago

I absolutely do not understand this solution. Please does anyone else have another solution?

chioma Stella - 1 year, 4 months ago

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