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The graph above shows the figure created by the function x 2 + ( y + x ) 2 = 1 x^2+(y+x)^2=1 .

Find the area of this tilted ellipse correct to 2 decimal places.


The answer is 3.14.

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Thaddeus Abiy
Apr 14, 2015

Here is my stupid non-rigorous calculus approach. Consider a red vertical strip of area d A dA The length of this strip D D can be found by solving for y y . This is just the euclidean distance between points obtained by intersecting a vertical line at x x ( x , 1 x 2 x ) , ( x , 1 x 2 x ) (x,\sqrt{1-x^2} - x) , (x,-\sqrt{1-x^2} - x ) thus the distance D = 2 1 x 2 D = 2\sqrt{1-x^2} . We know that the small area is just the the length times width of the strip d A = D d x dA = Ddx d A = 2 1 x 2 d x dA = 2\sqrt{1-x^2} dx A = 2 1 1 1 x 2 d x = π A =2\int_{-1}^{1} {\sqrt{1-x^2} dx = \pi}

"Stupid"? I imagine that in earlier times many problems were solved along these lines.

Bill Bell - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Sounds like a pun if you think about it

Caiden Cleveland - 5 years, 10 months ago

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I like puns but can't see this one. Do ellucidate!

Bill Bell - 5 years, 10 months ago
Abhishek Sinha
Apr 14, 2015

All we need to do is to rotate the co-ordinate axes so that they coincide with the major and minor axes of the ellipse. This will render the ellipse in the standard form. But the beauty is that we don't even need to do all the calculations explicitly if we employ a tiny bit of linear algebra. First, notice that x 2 + ( y + x ) 2 = 2 x 2 + 2 x y + y 2 = z T A z x^2+(y+x)^2=2x^2+2xy+y^2=\vec{z}^{T}A\vec{z} where A = ( 2 1 1 1 ) A=\begin{pmatrix} 2 &1 \\ 1 &1 \end{pmatrix} and z = ( x y ) \vec{z}=\begin{pmatrix}x \\ y \end{pmatrix} . Now let us write the eigen decomposition of A A as A = U Λ U T A=U\Lambda U^{T} where U U is an orthonormal (rotation) matrix and Λ \Lambda is a diagonal matrix consisting of eigenvalues of A A . Since rotation does not change the area, we change the co-ordinates as follows ζ = U T z \vec{\zeta}=U^T\vec{z} . With this transformation, the equation of the ellipse becomes ζ T Λ ζ = 1 \vec{\zeta}^{T}\Lambda\vec{\zeta}=1 However, since Λ \Lambda is diagonal, the above is equivalent to λ 1 ζ 1 2 + λ 2 ζ 2 2 = 1 \lambda_1\zeta_1^2+\lambda_2\zeta_2^2=1 This is an ellipse in standard form and its area S S is well-known to be S = π λ 1 λ 2 = π det ( A ) S=\frac{\pi}{\sqrt{\lambda_1\lambda_2}}=\frac{\pi}{\sqrt{\text{det}(A)}} Thus all we need to do is to compute det ( A ) \text{det}(A) , which is 1 1 in this case and the answer follows.

What kind of magic is that?

Bogdan Simeonov - 6 years, 2 months ago

(O.o) \huge{\text{(O.o)}}

Wat

@Brian Charlesworth this looks like a solution you would write XD lol

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 2 months ago

Very nice one! (As expected) This is exactly what I did.

Samrat Mukhopadhyay - 5 years, 9 months ago
Alex Zhong
Apr 14, 2015

Use only the geometry way to solve the problem with no trig and calculus:

Step 1: { x 2 + ( y + x ) 2 = 1 x 2 + y 2 = 1 \begin{cases} x^2+(y+x)^2=1 \\ x^2+y^2=1 \end{cases}

Subtract the equations we have x ( 2 y + x ) = 0. x(2y+x) = 0.

First two solutions are obvious: A = ( 0 , 1 ) A=(0,1) and B = ( 0 , 1 ) B=(0,-1) . The other two solutions are C = ( 2 5 , 1 5 ) C=(\frac{2}{\sqrt 5}, -\frac{1}{\sqrt 5} ) , and D = ( 2 5 , 1 5 ) D=(-\frac{2}{\sqrt 5}, \frac{1}{\sqrt 5} ) .

Slope of line AD is m = 1 + 5 2 m = -\dfrac{1+\sqrt 5}{2} .

The major axis of the ellipse (a) can be calculated from { x 2 + ( y + x ) 2 = 1 y = 1 + 5 2 x \begin{cases} x^2+(y+x)^2=1 \\ y = -\dfrac{1+\sqrt 5}{2}x \end{cases}

a = 5 + 1 2 . a = \dfrac{\sqrt 5 +1}{2}.

The minor axis of the ellipse (b) can be calcuated from { x 2 + ( y + x ) 2 = 1 y = 2 1 + 5 x \begin{cases} x^2+(y+x)^2=1 \\ y = \dfrac{2}{1+\sqrt 5}x \end{cases}

b = 5 1 2 . b = \dfrac{\sqrt 5 -1}{2}.

Therefore, the area of the ellipse is

A r e a = π a b = π 5 + 1 2 5 1 2 = π . Area = \pi ab = \pi \dfrac{\sqrt 5 +1}{2} \cdot \dfrac{\sqrt 5 -1}{2} = \boxed{\pi}.

Since the figure is perfectly elliptical (can some one prove this?) if we make a circle of radius r r centered at ( 0 , 0 ) (0,0) such that it has only two solutions with the ellipse, the solutions for 2 r 2 r will be the lengths of the major and minor axes of the ellipse.

We have the equations

{ x 2 + ( y + x ) 2 = 1 y 2 + x 2 = r 2 \begin{cases} x^2+(y+x)^2=1 \\ y^2+x^2=r^2 \end{cases}

Solving and plugging for y.

x 2 + ( r 2 x 2 + x ) 2 = 1 x^2+(\sqrt{r^2-x^2}+x)^2=1

Note that here the sign of the root doesn't matter here.

x 2 + r 2 + 2 x r 2 x 2 = 1 x^2+r^2+2x\sqrt{r^2-x^2}=1

4 x 2 r 2 4 x 4 = r 4 + x 4 + 1 + 2 x 2 r 2 2 x 2 2 r 2 4x^2r^2-4x^4=r^4+x^4+1+2x^2r^2-2x^2-2r^2

0 = 5 x 4 2 x 2 ( r 2 + 1 ) + ( r 4 2 r 2 + 1 ) 0=5x^4-2x^2(r^2+1)+(r^4-2r^2+1)

Messy quadratic (note there are no odd powers of x)

x = r 2 + 2 r 4 + 3 r 2 1 + 1 5 x=\dfrac{\sqrt{r^2+2\sqrt{-r^4+3r^2-1}+1}}{\sqrt5}

We need to check the extremes of this equation (Max and min r) such that x is still a real number.

Looking at the roots of the radical inside the radical (radicalception)

r 2 = 3 ± 5 2 r^2=\dfrac{3\pm\sqrt{5}}{2}

R = 1 + 5 2 , r = 1 + 5 2 R=\dfrac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2},~r=\dfrac{-1+\sqrt5}{2}

Where R is the major axis and r is the minor axis.

This the area is

R r π = 1 + 5 2 1 + 5 2 π = π Rr\pi=\dfrac{1+\sqrt5}{2}\cdot \dfrac{-1+\sqrt5}{2}\pi=\boxed{\pi}

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 1 month ago

In the third line, does it suppose the equation y(2x+y)=0 be x(x+2y)=0?

Ahmed Kamel - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Thank you for the correction.

Alex Zhong - 6 years, 1 month ago

Very nice! This is very similar to the pure geometric solution I had. I'll post the algebraic/geometric solution tonight if no one has posted it by then.

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 2 months ago
Akshay Bodhare
Apr 14, 2015

Let x = r cos θ , y = r sin θ x=r \cos \theta , y=r\sin \theta Substitute this into the equation to get, r 2 ( 1 + cos 2 θ + 2 sin θ cos θ ) = 1 r^2 (1+\cos^2 \theta + 2 \sin \theta \cos \theta ) = 1 Now, we can put any value of θ \theta and get r r

So, first we minimize ( 1 + cos 2 θ + 2 sin θ cos θ ) (1+\cos^2 \theta + 2 \sin \theta \cos \theta ) to get semi-major axis by differentiating and equating to zero.

Similarly,we find semi-minor axis and the use the formula A = π a b A= \pi a b

This will yield an approximation (which is very very close). But The minima and maxima of the function are not the end points of the major axis.

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Why is it so?

Saurabh Chaturvedi - 5 years, 2 months ago

Same ... Best and shortest method ..!

Karan Shekhawat - 6 years, 2 months ago

should it be r^2 ( 1 + cos^2 + 2sin cos ) = 1 ???

Vincent Miller Moral - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Yes ,you are correct.I have made edits to correct my solution.However,the answer remains same as the area of ellipse remains same even if it is rotated.

Akshay Bodhare - 6 years, 1 month ago
Maggie Miller
Aug 6, 2015

Let u = x u=x , v = y + x v=y+x . The Jacobian of the transformation from the x y xy -plane to the u v uv -plane is det ( 1 1 0 1 ) = 1 \bigg|\text{det}\begin{pmatrix}1&1\\0&1\end{pmatrix}\bigg|=1 , so area is preserved. In the u v uv -plane, the ellipse is mapped to the unit circle given by u 2 + v 2 = 1 u^2+v^2=1 . Therefore, the area of the ellipse is π 3.14 \pi\approx\boxed{3.14} .

Out of many interesting solutions, this is the best one.

Nathanael Case - 5 years, 2 months ago
Lucas Guimarães
Apr 16, 2015

The ellipse implicitly defined by the equation x 2 + ( x + y ) 2 = 1 x^2 + (x+y)^2 = 1 can be described by the following parametric funtion γ ( t ) = ( c o s ( t ) , s i n ( t ) c o s ( t ) ) \gamma(t) = ( cos(t), sin(t) - cos(t) ) with t [ 0 , 2 π ] t \in [0, 2\pi] . On other hand let F ( x , y ) = ( 0 , x ) F(x,y) = (0,x) be a vector field such as F y x F x y = 1 \frac{\partial F_y}{\partial x}- \frac{\partial F_x}{\partial y} = 1 so we can use the Green's Theorem:

0 2 π F ( γ ( t ) ) γ ( t ) d t = γ F y x F x y d A \int_0^{2\pi} F(\gamma(t)) \cdot \gamma'(t) dt = \int_\gamma\frac{\partial F_y}{\partial x}- \frac{\partial F_x}{\partial y} dA

Replacing what we know in the above equation :

0 2 π ( 0 , c o s ( t ) ) ( s i n ( t ) , c o s ( t ) s i n ( t ) ) d t = γ d A \int_0^{2\pi} (0, cos(t)) \cdot (-sin(t), cos(t)-sin(t)) dt = \int_\gamma dA

0 2 π c o s 2 ( t ) c o s ( t ) s i n ( t ) d t = A \int_0^{2\pi} cos^2(t)-cos(t)sin(t) dt = A

We know that 0 2 π c o s 2 ( t ) d t = π \int_0^{2\pi} cos^2(t) dt = \pi and 0 2 π c o s ( t ) s i n ( t ) d t = 0 \int_0^{2\pi} -cos(t)sin(t) dt = 0 then:

A = π A = \pi

Bill Bell
Apr 14, 2015

I resorted to Lagrange multipliers—something I can do symbolically for the most part.

I have absolutely no idea what the heck this is. But it looks smart :3 nice job none the less.

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Thank you. Nice problem. When I saw Lagrange multipliers 50 years ago I can't remember that the professor suggested anything that we could do with them.

Bill Bell - 6 years, 2 months ago

I'm guessing this is some sort of minimization via Lagrange multipliers. The script just does the algebra .

Thaddeus Abiy - 6 years, 2 months ago

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You're right. I'm quite sure that, even without knowing any Python, if you look at the detail you can see what's happening. It's probably of no interest to anyone who doesn't write code.

Bill Bell - 6 years, 2 months ago
Gleb Posobin
Apr 15, 2015

I didn't have a name for that but it was the most intuitive and simple for me!

Jean-Alexandre Barszcz - 6 years, 1 month ago
Rohit Sachdeva
Apr 14, 2015

Let x=sinA

x+y=cosA or y=cosA-sinA

Integrate ydx from 0 to 2(pi) to get solution as pi

Would you mind elaborating a bit?

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 2 months ago
Trevor Arashiro
Apr 14, 2015

There are many ways to solve the problem. I can think of at least 4. 2 of which require calculus, one of which uses algebra+geometry (I wouldn't go as far as to call it analytical geom), and one which uses purely coordinate geometry.

Trevor since you actually tagged it under #geometry can you pleade post the non-calculus ways.

P.s. Many like me still used calculus any way

Sualeh Asif - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Refer to Alex Zhong's solution. I'll post the half Alg half geom solution tonight if no one has posted it by then.

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Grear stolution thanks!

Sualeh Asif - 6 years, 1 month ago

I just posted the Alg-geom solution as a comment on Alex Zhong's solution

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 1 month ago

Another Solution,

x 2 + ( x + y ) 2 = 1 \displaystyle x^2+\left(x+y\right)^2\ =\ 1 Let X and Y be the axis after rotation,

x y X cos θ sin θ Y sin θ cos θ \displaystyle\begin{array}{l|c|r} ~& x & y \\ \hline X & ~~~\cos \theta & \sin \theta \\\hline Y & -\sin \theta & \cos\theta\\\end{array}

x = X cos θ Y sin θ y = X sin θ + Y cos θ x + y = X ( cos θ + sin θ ) + Y ( cos θ sin θ ) \displaystyle\begin{aligned}x &= X\cos\theta - Y\sin\theta\\ y &= X\sin\theta + Y\cos\theta\\ x+y&= X(\cos\theta+\sin\theta) + Y(\cos\theta-\sin\theta)\end{aligned}

To get X Y \displaystyle XY term = 0 \displaystyle =0 ,

x 2 + ( x + y ) 2 = 2 X Y sin θ cos θ + + 2 X Y ( cos 2 θ sin 2 θ ) + tan 2 θ = 2 \displaystyle x^2 + (x+y)^2 = \cdots-2XY\sin\theta\cos\theta + \cdots + 2XY\left(\cos^2\theta - \sin^2\theta\right) + \cdots\\ \boxed{\tan 2\theta = 2}

Getting Ellipse Equation,

x 2 ( cos 2 θ + sin θ cos θ + 1 ) + y 2 ( sin 2 θ + 1 sin θ cos θ ) = 1 x 2 a 2 + y 2 b 2 x^2(\cos^2\theta + \sin\theta\cos\theta+1)+y^2(\sin^2\theta+1-\sin\theta\cos\theta) = 1\equiv \dfrac{x^2}{a^2}+\dfrac{y^2}{b^2}

Putting values of θ \theta ,

1 a 2 1 b 2 = 1 a b = 1 \dfrac{1}{a^2}\cdot\dfrac{1}{b^2} = 1\\\Rightarrow ab = 1

A r e a = π a b = π \Huge \therefore \boxed{Area = \pi ab= \pi}

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago
卓為 林
Apr 29, 2020

y = x ± x 2 + 1 y=-x\pm\sqrt{-x^2+1} Area = 2 1 1 1 x 2 d x = π ( 1 ) 2 =2 \int_{-1}^1 \sqrt{1-x^2}dx=\pi (1)^2

i just found the inersection by the line y=-x nd the r s we ll know is pi l b , l is mjor xis nd b is minor xis , you get pi .

Bryan Hung
Sep 7, 2016

I believe this solution is simpler...

Note that the graph is a circle, except each vertical slice is just translated up/down by some amount, determined by x. However, simply moving the slices shouldn't change the area. Thus, the area should still be that of a unit circle, or π \pi .

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