A passenger in a closed train car moving at constant velocity tosses a coin directly upward. Where will the coin fall?
(Ignore effects of air resistance.)
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Correct..... rest answer are just like useless theorems, train is moving constant or it is stopped. so the same action will be seen , in both case. vertical up tossing, and same direction it comes down, while moving, constantly..or in stoppage . forces are neutralized. so no change unless drastic speed change, sudden break, air blowing starts. so your answer is 100% correct.
Due to inertia it will cover the same distance as the train, if we neglect air resistance.
u told that there is lack of air so how can coin falls in his hand
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It says lack of air not gravity
Why cant fall!!! gravity is present there.
Due to Inertia.... and since there is no air.. thus no air resistance and hence it falls in his own hand
so there's not air so the coin can't fly any where, right ?xD
Actually, your answer is wrong.
The answer is D: Not certain. Why? Quantum mechanics: there is a probability that the coin may do one of the following: slip through the man's hand; pop out of existence; teleport through spacetime into another location;... or, similar events may apply to the man, the train, or the entire planet.
However, I understand that your question was to be interpeted from a classical Newtonian-mechanics standpoint. Next time you should specify in your question to which fields of physics you want the solver to confine his answers to, or just specify exceptions.
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Far too pedantic, it's obvious what he means, no need at all to bring up the fact that you know about (probably a very small area) of quantum mechanics
Huh, funny. Wasnt excpecting to see smart-asses on Brilliant. You obviously just want to show that you "know" about quantum physics... Or you were just making a joke and im in the wrong
Not even pedantic, you are simply incorrect. Quantum effects are not observable in any capacity in this system. This is equivalent to stating that it is not certain that a hot cup of coffee will cool down in cold weather because there is a minute probability that it heats up. Rule #1 of pedanticism is at least be goddamn right.
Yes I agree by your opinion !!
The coin is not on the train, it is in the air.
Another question earth is moving with uniform velocity and you jump on earth where will you land America, Europe, Indian Ocean
The lack of air, means the man is dead, and couldn't flip the coin, or have it land on his hand. But if I allow for a man that can survive a vacuum, that still doesn't tell me if he was tossing it straight up, out in front of him, back behind him, or down at his feet. So there is not enough information to form a correct answer. Hence, an answer of "not certain" would be the correct answer.
Lack of air means what ??
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it means the air resistance is lower,hence the gravitational acceleration is faster.
Why Will it Fall in his hand?...Can You Explain please!
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Since there is no resistance, there is no reason, according to Newton's Third Law of Motion, for the coin to travel in any horizontal direction. PS: I assume that the coin is thrown directly upwards, exactly perpendicular to his hand.
The only thing that gave me pause was the use of the phrase "directly up" since no mention was made of what frame of reference "up" was relative to. This confusion could be avoided by saying that the force/impulse imparted on the coin was directly up.
i still dont get it. The "lack of air" data seems to be irrelevant
Don't you mean the Earth is spinning? That is a very good point though. Generally in mechanics it is always worth thinking of an extreme example in order to answer the question
Actually, there is a slight effect, caused by the rotation of the Earth. It's called the Coriolis effect. The effect is miniscule in this case, but it's there. If we're talking about a flat Earth, then the answer is clearly "in the man's hand." But in fact the Earth is rotating. In its flight, the coin is actually in a very eccentric orbit. Because its apogee is a little higher than the radius of the man's hand, its period will be a little slower, and the coin will land a little to the West of the man's hand.
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The coin and the man both would have same horizontal velocity and the frame of reference is not accelarated(train is moving with uniform velocity)
Due to inertia it will cover the same distance as the train, if we neglect air resistance.
The inertia of the coin will keep it moving at the same speed as the train and the passenger, therefore it will fall as it would in a motionless train.
Unless the train is in a curve, the trajectory of the coin, from the point of view of the person throwing it is going to be up and down as both, person and coin, are in the same system of reference.
Since the train is in uniform motion it is a inertial reference frame, thus all the physics laws are behave exactly like any other inertial frame of reference (like the train station).
Since the coin is moving with the train, the velocity of both is the same, therefore when tossed, the coin should have no additional starting velocty on the horizontal axis (assuming the passenger did not throw the coin horizontally, and hat air resistance is negligible). That being stated, the coin should land back into the person's palm. However, from the passenger's reference frame, the coin travels up and back down into the person's palm.
You, the train, and the coin all have the same horizontal velocity.
The frame of reference is the same. Whether you are enclosed in a compartment moving at a constant velocity or whether you are stationary on the ground.
it will land in his hands because if the car train is moving with a velocity v then the will also be moving with the same speed after being tossed .
the train and we are going with same velocity and other work done by inertia
in simple words I would like to say that the phone and the person move with the car with the same speed they gain some momentum due to which even as they leave contact from the car instantly there there will be no change in this speed so when the person will throw the coin upwards person and the coin will move with the same speed horizontally instantly and so the coin will fall on the palm of the person.
The question states the train is moving forward. Therefore the question is asked in the context of an external observer of this train standing on the stationary earth. For the coin to land back in his hand the observer would see the coin launched in an up and forward direction. Therefore if the coin was launched directly up, it would land behind the thrower.
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Well we are assuming that there is little air resistance and the coin is tossed vertically. You and the train are going at a constant, so the coin will as it is flipped. ∴ the coin will land in your palm. This is sometimes called the "cannonball principle".