Let α and β be the roots of x 2 − 6 x − 2 = 0 with α>β and a n = α n − β n and also let there be some quantity X = 2 a 9 a 1 0 − 2 a 8 . Also there is a quadratic equation x 2 − ( m − X ) x + m = 0 where m is some real quantity.
Find number of all the possible integral values of m such that both the roots of this quadratic equation lie in the interval (1,2).
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This solution should get more votes than the current top-voted one.
α = 3 + 1 1 β = 3 − 1 1 u s i n g v a l u e s t o d e t e r m i n e X : 2 [ ( 3 + 1 1 ) 9 − ( 3 − 1 1 ) 9 ] ( 3 + 1 1 ) 1 0 − ( 3 − 1 1 ) 1 0 − 2 ( 3 + 1 1 ) 8 + 2 ( 3 − 1 1 ) 8 a f t e r m a n i p u l a t i o n : 2 [ ( 3 + 1 1 ) 9 − ( 3 − 1 1 ) 9 ] 6 [ ( 3 + 1 1 ) 9 − ( 3 − 1 1 ) 9 ] = 3 = X e q u a t i o n : x 2 − ( m − 3 ) x + m = 0 b y a p p l y i n g t w o c o n d i t i o n s : 1 ) D ≥ 0 2 ) 1 < 2 a − b < 2 ( 1 ) ∩ ( 2 ) ∈ ϕ
There is no need to calculate alpha & beta
I like how you used the vertex being between 1 and 2 to get another inequality involving m.
x 2 − 6 x − 2 = 0 ⇒ x 1 0 − 6 x 9 − 2 x 8 = 0 ⇒ α 1 0 − 6 α 9 − 2 α 8 = β 1 0 − 6 β 9 − 2 β 8 = 0 ⇒ ( α 1 0 − β 1 0 ) − 6 ( α 9 − β 9 ) − 2 ( α 8 − β 8 ) = 0 ⇒ X = 3 n o w , f o r r o o t o f e q u a t i o n f ( x ) = x 2 − ( m − 3 ) x − m = 0 t o l i e i n ( 1 , 2 ) f o l l o w i n g 3 c o n d i t i o n s h o u l d b e f u l f i l l e d . ( i ) f ( 1 ) f ( 2 ) > 0 ⇒ m < 1 0 ( i i ) b 2 − 4 a c ≥ 0 ⇒ m ∈ / ( 1 , 9 ) ( i i i ) 1 < 2 m − 3 < 2 ⇒ 5 < m < 7 s o , i t i s c l e a r t h a t t h e r e i s n o p o s s i b l e v a l u e o f m .
Your's and Nirjhor's solution should be the top-voted one.
Exactly, Without calculating alpha and beta also the value of expression can be found out.
Good question.
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The equation implies x n = 6 x n − 1 + 2 x n − 2 from where we get a n = α n − β n = = = ( 6 α n − 1 + 2 α n − 2 ) − ( 6 β n − 1 + 2 β n − 2 ) 6 ( α n − 1 − β n − 1 ) + 2 ( α n − 2 − β n − 2 ) 6 a n − 1 + 2 a n − 2 and hence a 1 0 − 2 a 8 = ( 6 a 9 + 2 a 8 ) − 2 a 8 = 6 a 9 . Thus X = 6 a 9 / 2 a 9 = 3 . So our quadratic is x 2 − ( m − 3 ) x + m = 0 . Now if both the roots lie in ( 1 , 2 ) then their sum m − 3 lies in ( 2 , 4 ) . Hence m lies in ( 5 , 7 ) . Since m ∈ Z we must have m = 6 which leads to non-real roots. So there's no such integral value of m . □