JEE Advanced Sequence and Series 1

Algebra Level 5

If x , y x,y are positive real numbers such that x 1 + y 1 = 1 x^{-1}+y^{-1}=1 then the minimum value of 3 1 x x + 6 5 y y \dfrac{31^x}{x}+\dfrac{65^y}{y} is α \alpha . Calculate α \alpha .

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The answer is 2015.

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5 solutions

Pranjal Jain
Feb 25, 2015

Consider 3 1 x , 3 1 x , 3 1 x , ( y t i m e s ) 31^x, 31^x, 31^x,\cdots (y\ times) and 6 5 y , 6 5 y , 6 5 y , ( x t i m e s ) 65^y,65^y,65^y,\cdots (x\ times)

A M = ( 3 1 x + 3 1 x + ) + ( 6 5 y + 6 5 y + ) x + y = y 3 1 x + x 6 5 y x + y AM=\dfrac{(31^x+31^x+\cdots)+(65^y+65^y+\cdots)}{x+y}=\dfrac{y31^x+x65^y}{x+y}

G M = ( ( 3 1 x 3 1 x 3 1 x ) ( 6 5 y 6 5 y 6 5 y ) ) 1 x + y = ( 3 1 x y 6 5 x y ) 1 x + y = ( 2015 ) x y x + y GM=((31^x31^x31^x\cdots)(65^y65^y65^y\cdots))^\dfrac{1}{x+y}\\=(31^{xy}65^{xy})^\dfrac{1}{x+y}=(2015)^\dfrac{xy}{x+y}

Now 1 x + 1 y = 1 x + y x y = 1 \dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=1\Rightarrow \dfrac{x+y}{xy}=1

G M = 2015 GM=2015

By A M G M AM-GM inequality,

A M G M AM\geq GM

y 3 1 x + x 6 5 y x + y 2015 y 3 1 x + x 6 5 y x y 2015 \dfrac{y31^x+x65^y}{x+y}\geq 2015\Rightarrow\dfrac{y31^x+x65^y}{xy}\geq 2015

3 1 x x + 6 5 y y 2015 \Rightarrow \dfrac{31^x}{x}+\dfrac{65^y}{y}\geq 2015

So minimum value is 2015

Awesome solution, but you might want to use Weighted AM-GM instead since 3 1 x , 3 1 x , . . . ( x times ) 31^x,31^x,... (x \text{ times}) is undefined when x x is a real number.

Siddhartha Srivastava - 6 years, 3 months ago

@Akshat Jain Done!

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 3 months ago

Brilliant solution.

Akshat Jain - 6 years, 3 months ago

I too used the same method but am not sure whether the AM-GM \text{AM-GM} inequality can be used when the number of terms is not an integer. Could you please tell me more about this @Pranjal Jain .

Karthik Kannan - 6 years, 3 months ago

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The terms should be positive. Integers are not required.

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 2 months ago

Jensen's inequality feels much more convincing here since e x p ( x ) x \frac{exp(x)}{x} is concave up. (You can say it is derivation of AM-GM).

Kartik Sharma - 4 years, 5 months ago

Hey, @Pranjal Jain If I tend x to infinity and y=1 then I am getting its min.to be infinite.Please see to it.

Shivam Goyal - 4 years ago

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Sorry,ignore it.

Shivam Goyal - 4 years ago
Aman Kumar
Feb 18, 2015

question is classic As 1/x+1/y=1 so , put x=2 and y= 2,(which satisfy the given condition) Now, for two numbers 31^2 , and 65^2 Therefore by applying A.M>=G.M

31^2+65^2/2 >= sqrt (31^2 * 65^2) so, the minimum value is 31*65= 2015

Prakhar Gupta
Feb 17, 2015

The given equation is 1 x + 1 y = 1 \dfrac{1}{x} + \dfrac{1}{y} = 1 It can be rewritten as y = x x 1 y = \dfrac{x}{x-1} Now we can write that α = 3 1 x x + 6 5 x x 1 ( 1 1 x ) \alpha = \dfrac{31^{x}}{x} + 65^{\dfrac{x}{x-1}}\Bigg( 1- \dfrac{1}{x}\Bigg) Differentiating wrt to x x . d α d x = 3 1 x ln 31 x 3 1 x x 2 + 6 5 x x 1 ln 65 ( 1 ( x 1 ) 2 ) ( x 1 x ) + 1 x 2 6 5 x x 1 . \dfrac{d\alpha}{dx} = \dfrac{31^{x} \ln31 x - 31^{x}}{x^{2}} + 65^{\dfrac{x}{x-1}} \ln65 \Bigg( \dfrac{-1}{(x-1)^{2}} \Bigg) \Bigg( \dfrac{x-1}{x} \Bigg) + \dfrac{1}{x^{2}} 65^{\dfrac{x}{x-1}} . When α \alpha is minimum, d α d x \frac{d\alpha}{dx} should be 0 0 . 3 1 x ( x ln 31 1 ) x 2 = 6 5 x x 1 ( ln 65 x ( x 1 ) 1 x 2 ) \dfrac{31^{x} (x \ln31 -1)}{x^{2}} = 65^{\dfrac{x}{x-1}} \Bigg( \dfrac{\ln65 }{x(x-1)} -\dfrac{1}{x^{2}} \Bigg) Now we can replace x x 1 \frac{x}{x-1} by y y . Hence:- 3 1 x ( x ln 31 1 ) = 6 5 y ( y ln 65 1 ) 31^{x} ( x\ln31 - 1) = 65^{y} (y\ln65 -1) These two expressions will be equal when x ln 31 = y ln 65 3 1 x = 6 5 y x\ln31 = y\ln65 \implies 31^{x} = 65^{y} We can again replace y y by x x 1 \frac{x}{x-1} . Hence x ln 31 = x x 1 ln 65 x\ln31 = \dfrac{x}{x-1} \ln65 This gives x = ln ( 65 × 31 ) ln 31 x = \dfrac{\ln (65\times 31)}{\ln 31} Now we know that α = 3 1 x x + 6 5 y y \alpha = \dfrac{31^{x}}{x} + \dfrac{65^{y}}{y} Put 3 1 x = 6 5 y 31^{x} = 65^{y} α = 3 1 x ( 1 x + 1 y ) \alpha = 31^{x} \Bigg( \dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y} \Bigg) α = 3 1 x \alpha = 31^{x} ln α = x ln 31 \ln \alpha = x \ln31 ln α = ln ( 65 × 31 ) \ln \alpha = \ln (65\times 31) α = 65 × 31 \alpha= 65\times 31 α = 2015 \boxed{\alpha = 2015}

Bro i too used calculus, except i in the first step introduced the parameters 1/x= sin^2(t) and 1/y = cos^2(t) and proceeded,

But considering that they give 3 mins per problem in JEE advanced, my method is not useful there,

Mvs Saketh - 6 years, 3 months ago

Although the problem is tagged with #Algebra, #Classical Inequalities, but I was able to find the solution using calculus only. I want to see a solution using Algebra too!!.

Prakhar Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

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See @nikhil jaiswal 's solution. Though its a bit dirty (non-LaTeXified). I'll post a better one soon.

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 3 months ago
Nikhil Jaiswal
Feb 18, 2015

we can apply am gm in question then weighted am gm considering 31 to be x times and 65 to be y times then putting the value of x+y as xy then again applying am gm i got the answer . i am just giving only the hint . note that minimum value of xy comes out to be 4 which is helpful in solving this question

@Pranjal Jain , please post the complete solution (algebraic method), as you said. Thank you. PS: Can I please get your email ID? I need some guidance from you. Thank you again!

Akshat Jain - 6 years, 3 months ago
Divyansh Garg
Feb 19, 2015

use Holder's Inequality

And what's holder inequality? And how does it helps here?

Pranjal Jain - 6 years, 3 months ago

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