JEE Novice ( new 11)

x = 111110 111111 , y = 222221 222223 , z = 333331 333334 x=\dfrac{111110}{111111} , y = \dfrac{222221}{222223} , z = \dfrac{333331}{333334}

Compare x , y , z x,y,z .

x > y > z x>y>z x > z > y x>z>y y > z > x y>z>x z > x > y z>x>y

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5 solutions

Feathery Studio
May 26, 2015

Let n = 111111 n=111111 . Then x = n 1 n x=\frac{n-1}{n} , y = 2 n 1 2 n + 1 y=\frac{2n-1}{2n+1} , and z = 3 n 2 3 n + 1 z = \frac{3n-2}{3n+1} .

Then, x = 1 1 n x=1-\frac{1}{n} .

Let a = 2 n + 1 a = 2n+1 , then y = a 2 a = 1 2 a = 1 2 2 n + 1 = 1 1 n + 1 2 y = \frac{a-2}{a} = 1 - \frac{2}{a} = 1 - \frac{2}{2n+1} = 1 - \frac{1}{n+\frac{1}{2}} .

Finally, let b = 3 n + 1 b = 3n+1 , then z = b 3 b = 1 3 b = 1 3 3 n + 1 = 1 1 n + 1 3 z = \frac{b-3}{b} = 1 - \frac{3}{b} = 1 - \frac{3}{3n+1} = 1 - \frac{1}{n+\frac{1}{3}}

It is evident that 1 n > 1 n + 1 3 > 1 n + 1 2 \frac{1}{n} > \frac{1}{n+\frac{1}{3}} > \frac{1}{n+\frac{1}{2}} , so therefore 1 1 n + 1 2 > 1 1 n + 1 3 > 1 1 n 1 - \frac{1}{n+\frac{1}{2}} > 1 - \frac{1}{n+\frac{1}{3}} > 1-\frac{1}{n} , or y > z > x \boxed{y > z > x} .

Moderator note:

What a pleasant surprise! I was thinking of a solution similar to this older question . But yours is clearly better.

Plz someone write in simple way....

Rohan Zia - 5 years, 2 months ago

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São todos iguais. Verifique com uma calculadora. Valor 0,999991.

Roberto Nascimento - 1 year, 8 months ago

a(b+a) =1--a/b thats take time but nice q

Patience Patience - 5 years, 1 month ago

Your options aren't correct. I get all a,b,c are equal.

niloy debnath - 4 years, 11 months ago

ummm i did it on my calculator and all of them are equal. check ur shit, ur wrong

jul fri - 5 years, 5 months ago

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even i tried on calculator bt i didnt get all equal

Meenakshi Nakka - 5 years, 5 months ago

Dude chill out, check your calculator because they're clearly not equal.

Qais Kawalit - 5 years ago

.999990999991 .9999910000315 .999991000018

Those are only equal values if your calculator doesn't have a long enough screen. This is why we solve problems without calculators.

Brian Egedy - 5 years ago

I agree with you

Roberto Nascimento - 1 year, 8 months ago
Jesse Nieminen
May 27, 2015

x = 1 - 1/111111 = 1 - 2/222222 = 1 - 3/333333

y = 1 - 2/222223 = 1 - 6/666669

z = 1 - 3/333334 = 1 - 6/666668

1 - m/n < 1 - m/(n+1) when m and n are both positive

1 - 2/222222 < 1 - 2/222223 so x < y

1 - 3/333333 < 1 - 3/333334 so x < z

1 - 6/666668 < 1 - 6/666669 so z < y

Result: x < z < y ( <=> y > z > x)

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Marvelous!

Scott Ripperda
May 28, 2015

My technique was not as sophisticated as the other solutions, but since it is a multiple choice question, it still works and is simpler. Multiplying the numerator and denominator of x by 2 gives x = 222220 222222 x=\frac{222220}{222222} , which means y>x and multiplying the numerator and denominator of x by 3 gives x = 333330 333333 x=\frac{333330}{333333} which means z>x. There is only one solution where x is the least so y > z > x \boxed{y>z>x} .

Moderator note:

Almost right. You first need to explain why the following inequality is true, n m < n + 1 m + 1 \frac nm < \frac{n+1}{m+1} . Do you see why it's true?

True, I missed explaining that step, proof for n m < n + 1 m + 1 \frac{n}{m}<\frac{n+1}{m+1} :

Combining the fractions gives n ( m + 1 ) m ( n + 1 ) m ( m + 1 ) < 0 n m < 0 n < m \frac{n(m+1)-m(n+1)}{m(m+1)}<0\Rightarrow n-m<0 \Rightarrow n<m which is true, so n m < n + 1 m + 1 \frac{n}{m}<\frac{n+1}{m+1}

Scott Ripperda - 5 years, 9 months ago
Pranshu Upadhaya
Dec 19, 2015

Its very simple. 111110/111111 = 1-(1/111110) 222221/222223= 1-(2/222223)=1-(1/111111.5) 333331/333334= 1-(3/333334)=1-(1/111111.3) Look at the denominators. Larger the denominator larger the value.

Beautiful! This simplest solution is the best... Elegant!

James Schuller - 3 years, 4 months ago
Sadasiva M
Jun 5, 2015

Let a = 111110, b = 111111 then, x = a/b, y = (2a + 1)/(2b + 1) = (a + (1/2))/(b + (1/2)) z = (3a + 1)/(3b + 1) = (a + (1/3))/(b + (1/3)) It is obvious that (x + p)/(y + p) > (x + q)/(y + q), provided p > q. Hence, (a + (1/2))/(b + (1/2)) > (a + (1/3))/(b + (1/3)) > (a + 0)/(b +0) Thus, y > z > x

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