John's strange quadrilateral

Geometry Level 3

Convex quadrilateral A B C D ABCD has sides A B = B C = 21 AB = BC = 21 , C D = 15 CD = 15 and A D = 9 AD = 9 . Given additionally that A B C = 6 0 \angle ABC = 60^\circ , what is the length of B D BD ?

This problem is proposed by John .


The answer is 24.

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20 solutions

Zach Obsniuk
May 20, 2014

Call D A C = θ \angle DAC = \theta , then to find cos θ \cos\theta we can use Law of Cosines:

1 5 2 = 9 2 + 2 1 2 2 9 21 cos θ 15^2 = 9^2 + 21^2 - 2*9*21*\cos\theta

cos θ = 11 / 14 \cos\theta = 11/14

Now using Pythagorean identity, we find sin θ \sin\theta

sin 2 θ + ( 11 / 14 ) 2 = 1 \sin^2\theta + (11/14)^2 = 1

sin θ = 5 3 / 14 \sin\theta = 5\sqrt{3}/14

We know C A B = 6 0 \angle CAB = 60^\circ because A B C \triangle ABC is equilateral, so D A B = ( 60 + θ ) \angle DAB = (60 + \theta)^\circ , and we can find cos ( 60 + θ ) \cos(60 + \theta) using the cosine addition formula:

cos ( 60 + θ ) = cos 60 cos θ sin 60 sin θ \cos(60 + \theta) = \cos60\cos\theta - \sin60\sin\theta

Plugging in our known values gives us:

cos ( 60 + θ ) = 1 / 7 \cos(60 + \theta) = -1/7

So now we use Law of Cosines again on D A B \angle DAB to finally find B D BD :

B D 2 = 9 2 + 2 1 2 2 9 21 ( 1 / 7 ) BD^2 = 9^2 + 21^2 - 2*9*21*(-1/7)

B D = 24 BD = 24

Patrick Wang
May 20, 2014

Since A B = B C = 21 AB=BC=21 and A B C = 6 0 \angle ABC = 60 ^ \circ , A B C ABC must be equilateral and A C = 21 AC=21 .

Triangle A C D ACD has sides A D = 9 AD=9 , D C = 15 DC=15 , and C A = 21 CA=21 . Using law of cosines on C D A \angle CDA :

C A 2 = A D 2 + D C 2 2 A D D C cos C D A CA^2=AD^2+DC^2-2 \cdot AD \cdot DC \cdot \cos \angle CDA

2 1 2 = 9 2 + 1 5 2 2 9 15 cos C D A 21^2 = 9^2 + 15^2 - 2 \cdot 9 \cdot 15 \cdot \cos \angle CDA

441 = 81 + 225 270 cos C D A 441 = 81 + 225 - 270 \cos \angle CDA

135 = 270 cos C D A 135 = -270 \cos \angle CDA

cos C D A = 1 2 \cos \angle CDA = -\frac{1}{2}

C D A = 12 0 \angle CDA = 120 ^ \circ

Since A B C = 6 0 \angle ABC = 60 ^ \circ , A B C + C D A = 18 0 \angle ABC + \angle CDA = 180 ^ \circ , so quadrilateral A B C D ABCD is cyclic.

Then we can use Ptolemy's:

A B C D + B C A D = A C B D AB \cdot CD + BC \cdot AD = AC \cdot BD

21 15 + 21 9 = 21 B D 21 \cdot 15 + 21 \cdot 9 = 21 \cdot BD

B D = 24 BD=24

Most approached this using Ptolemy's after they realized that we have a cyclic quad. For those who do not know Ptolemy's you can still use Sine rule and Cosine rule to evaluate the angles of the triangle.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

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Is there a way to test if a quadrilateral is concyclic without knowing its area. Preferably a way that is quicker than using law of sines/cosines to solve this problem so we can use ptolemy's theorem. I actually used mahavira's theorem (a longer way of ptolemy's) on the assumption that it was cyclic and got lucky.

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 10 months ago

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same with me

math man - 6 years, 9 months ago
Russell Few
May 20, 2014

Since BC=BA, <BCA=<BAC. Since BAC is a triangle, <BCA+<BAC=180-<CBA=180-60=120. Hence, AC=BC=21. Through the cosine rule on triangle ADC, cos <ADC= (AD^2+CD^2-AC^2)/(2 AD DC)=(9^2+15^2-21^2)/(2 9 15)=-1/2. <ADC=cos^-1 (-1/2), and ADC is between 0 to 180 degrees. Hence, <ADC=120, Since <ABC+<ADC=60+120=180, ABCD is a cyclic quadrilateral. We could apply Ptolemy's Theorem on ABCD. AD BC+AB CD=AC BD, so 9 21+21 15=21 BD. Factoring out 21, we get 9+15=BD --> BD=24. The length of BD is 24

Wilson Kan
May 20, 2014

Join A C AC and notice that Δ A B C \Delta ABC is equilateral. Thus A C = 21 AC=21 .

By the cosine law, we can find cos A C D = 13 14 \cos \angle ACD = \frac{13}{14} .

Then B D 2 = 2 1 2 + 1 5 2 2 ( 21 ) ( 15 ) cos ( 6 0 + cos 1 ( 13 14 ) ) BD^2 = 21^2+15^2-2(21)(15)\cos(60^\circ + \cos^{-1}(\frac{13}{14})) .

B D 2 = 666 630 ( cos ( 6 0 ) ( 13 14 ) sin ( 6 0 ) sin ( cos 1 ( 13 14 ) ) ) BD^2 = 666-630(\cos(60^\circ)(\frac{13}{14}) - \sin(60^\circ)\sin(\cos^{-1}(\frac{13}{14})))

B D 2 = 666 630 ( ( 13 28 ) 3 2 ( 3 3 14 ) ) BD^2 = 666-630((\frac{13}{28}) - \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}(\frac{3\sqrt{3}}{14}))

B D 2 = 576 BD^2 =576

B D = 24 BD =24

Bob Krueger
May 20, 2014

First note triangle ABC. Applying the Law of Cosines, we get A C 2 = 2 1 2 + 2 1 2 2 21 21 c o s 6 0 A C = 21 AC^2=21^2+21^2-2 \cdot 21 \cdot 21 \cdot cos60^{\circ} \Rightarrow AC=21 Next, applying the Law of Cosines on triangle ADC wrt $\angle ADC$ gives us 2 1 2 = 1 5 2 + 9 2 2 15 9 c o s A D C A D C = 12 0 21^2=15^2+9^2-2 \cdot 15 \cdot 9 \cdot cos\angle ADC \Rightarrow \angle ADC=120^{\circ} Thus since the opposite angles of the quadrilateral (in one case $60^{\circ}$ and $120^{\circ}$) are supplementary, the quadrilateral is cyclic. Thus we can apply Ptolmey's Theorem, which states A C B D = A B C D + B C A D AC \cdot BD = AB \cdot CD + BC \cdot AD 21 B D = 21 15 + 21 9 B D = 24 21 \cdot BD = 21 \cdot 15 + 21 \cdot 9 \Rightarrow BD=24

Clarification: One could have noticed that since triangle ABC was isoceles and the angle created by the two equal sides was $60^{\circ}$, triangle ABC must be equilateral. Proof of "if a quadrialteral's angles are supplementary, the quadrialteral is cyclic" is well known and can easily be found on the internet.

A B C \bigtriangleup ABC is isosceles, since A B = B C = 21 AB = BC = 21 , and has an angle of 6 0 60^\circ , so it is equilateral. This fact tells us that A C = 21 AC = 21 . Let m A D C = θ m \angle ADC = \theta . Using Law of Cosines on B C D \bigtriangleup BCD , we find that 1 5 2 + 9 2 2 9 15 cos ( θ ) = 2 1 2 15^2 + 9^2 - 2 \cdot 9 \cdot 15 \cdot \cos (\theta) = 21^2 cos ( θ ) = 441 225 81 2 9 15 \displaystyle \to \cos (\theta) = \frac{441 - 225 - 81}{- 2 \cdot 9 \cdot 15} \to cos ( θ ) = 135 270 = 1 2 \displaystyle \cos(\theta) = -\frac{135}{270} =-\frac{1}{2} θ = 12 0 \to \theta = 120^\circ .

Because A D C \angle ADC and A B C \angle ABC are supplementary, quadrilateral A B C D ABCD can be inscribed in a circle, and so we can use Ptolemy's Theorem on it. Ptolemy's theorem states that for any quadrilateral inscribed in a circle, the sum of the products of the lengths of the opposite sides is equal to the product of the lengths of the diagonals. This means that for our quadrilateral, A B C D + B C A D = B D A C AB \cdot CD + BC \cdot AD = BD \cdot AC . Substituting in the lengths we know, we can solve for B D BD : 21 15 + 21 9 = 21 B D 21 \cdot 15 + 21 \cdot 9 = 21 \cdot BD \to 21 ( 15 + 9 ) = 21 B D 24 = B D 21 \cdot (15 + 9) = 21 \cdot BD \to 24 = BD . Therefore, 24 24 is our answer.

Fatik Redy Hanif
May 20, 2014

Because A B = B C AB=BC , then A C B = B A C = 1 2 ( 18 0 A B C ) = 6 0 . \angle ACB=\angle BAC=\frac {1}{2}(180 ^ \circ - \angle ABC)=60 ^ \circ.

A B C ABC is an equilateral triangle. So, A C = 21 AC=21 .

By Cosine's Law on Δ A C D , \Delta ACD, We get

cos A C D = A C 2 + C D 2 A D 2 2 A C A D \cos \angle ACD=\frac {AC^2+CD^2-AD^2}{2 \cdot AC \cdot AD}

cos A C D = 2 1 2 + 1 5 2 9 2 2 21 15 \iff \cos \angle ACD=\frac {21^2+15^2-9^2}{2 \cdot 21 \cdot 15}

cos A C D = 13 14 \iff \cos \angle ACD=\frac {13}{14}

Because 0 A C D 18 0 0 ^ \circ \leq \angle ACD \leq 180 ^ \circ

Then sin A C D = 3 3 14 \sin \angle ACD=\frac {3 \sqrt{3}}{14}

By Cosine's Law on Δ B C D , \Delta BCD, We get

B D 2 = B C 2 + C D 2 2 B C C D cos B C D BD^2=BC^2+CD^2-2 \cdot BC \cdot CD \cdot \cos \angle BCD

B D 2 = 9 ( 7 2 + 5 2 2 7 5 cos ( A C D + 6 0 ) \iff BD^2=9(7^2+5^2-2 \cdot 7 \cdot 5 \cdot \cos (\angle ACD +60 ^ \circ)

B D 2 = 9 ( 74 70 ( 1 2 13 14 3 2 3 3 14 ) ) \iff BD^2=9(74-70 (\frac {1}{2} \cdot \frac {13}{14}-\frac {\sqrt{3}}{2} \cdot \frac {3 \sqrt{3}}{14}))

B D 2 = 9 64 \iff BD^2=9 \cdot 64 B D = 24 \iff BD=24

Yong See Foo
May 20, 2014

Apply cosine rule on triangles A B C ABC and A D C ADC on angles A B C ABC and A D C ADC respectively. We will solve for A C AC then A D C \angle ADC . A C 2 = 2 1 2 + 2 1 2 2 ( 21 ) 2 cos 6 0 = 2 1 2 = 1 5 2 + 9 2 2 ( 15 ) ( 9 ) cos A D C cos A D C = 1 2 A D C = 12 0 AC^2=21^2+21^2-2(21)^2 \cos 60^\circ=21^2=15^2+9^2-2(15)(9)\cos \angle ADC \Rightarrow \cos \angle ADC=-\frac{1}{2} \Rightarrow \angle ADC=120^\circ (since the quadrilateral is convex). Then A B C + A D C = 18 0 \angle ABC+\angle ADC=180^\circ . Therefore quadrilateral A B C D ABCD is cyclic and by Ptolemy's Theorem we have B D = 24 BD=24 .

Qi Huan Tan
May 20, 2014

Since A B = B C AB=BC , B A C = A C B = 18 0 6 0 2 = 6 0 \angle BAC=\angle ACB=\frac{180^\circ-60^\circ}{2}=60^\circ . A B C ABC is an equilateral triangle. A C = 21 AC=21 . Applying Cosine rule to triangle A D C ADC , 2 1 2 = 9 2 + 1 5 2 2 ( 9 ) ( 15 ) ( cos A D C ) , cos A D C = 1 2 , A D C = 12 0 21^2=9^2+15^2-2(9)(15)(\cos\angle ADC), \cos\angle ADC=-\frac{1}{2}, \angle ADC=120^\circ . Since A B C + A D C = 6 0 + 12 0 = 18 0 \angle ABC+\angle ADC=60^\circ+120^\circ=180^\circ , A B C D ABCD is a cyclic quadrilateral. By Ptolemy Theorem, ( 21 ) ( B D ) = ( 21 ) ( 15 ) + ( 21 ) ( 9 ) (21)(BD)=(21)(15)+(21)(9) . B D = 24 BD=24 .

Vincent Zhuang
May 20, 2014

Since ABC is isosceles with vertex 60 degrees, then the rest of the angles must be 60, so it's equilateral. Thus, AC=21, by LOC on ADC we get angle ADC=120. Since the opposite angles are thus supplementary, ABCD is cyclic. By Ptolemy, BD AC=BD 21=21(9+15)=21*24, so BD=24.

Christopher Xue
Dec 17, 2013

Since triangle ABC has two side lengths equal to each other, and between the two sides is a 60 degree angle, triangle ABC is equilateral. Thus, A C = 21 AC=21 . By the Law of Cosines, cos C A D = 9 2 + 1 5 2 2 1 2 2 9 15 = 1 2 \cos \angle CAD = \frac{9^2+15^2-21^2}{2 \cdot 9 \cdot 15} = -\frac{1}{2} .

Thus, m C A D = 12 0 m\angle CAD = 120^{\circ} . Observe that m A B C + m C A D = 18 0 , m\angle ABC + m\angle CAD = 180^{\circ}, so quadrilateral ABCD is cyclic. By Ptolemy's Theorem, A B C D + B C A D = A C B D . AB \cdot CD + BC \cdot AD = AC \cdot BD. Substituting in the known values results in B D = 24 . BD = \boxed{24}.

Gabriel Wong
May 20, 2014

Extend CB to E s.t. BE = 35. Note that if we can show AE = 49, by SSS, ABE and ADC are similar, implying ABCD is conyclic (angles ADC and ABC sum to 180 degrees)

Let the foot of perpendicular from A to BC be G

AG = 21(rt3/2)

GE = 35 + 21/2

by pythagoras theorem, AE = 49.

Thus ABCD is conyclic. Now apply Ptolemy's theorem, which gives us:

21(15) + 21(9) = 21(BD)

BD = 24.

Rushikesh Jogdand
May 20, 2014

AB = BC = 21 and [\angle ABC = 60 ^ \circ] ∴ ABC is an equilateral triangle. ∴ A(triangle ABC) = \frac {441 (\sqrt{3})}{4} by heron's formula A(triangle ACD) = \frac{135 (\sqrt{3})}{2} ∴ a(ABCD) = \frac{711 (\sqrt{3})}{4} but a(ABCD)=a(ADC)+a(BAD) ∴a(ACD)+a(BAD)= \frac{135 (\sqrt{3})}{2}

1] a(ACD)=\frac{\sqrt{(1296-BD²)(BD² - 36)}}{4} 2]a(ABD)=\frac{\sqrt{(900-BD²)(BD² - 144)}}{4}

∴\frac{\sqrt{(1296-BD²)(BD² - 36)}}{4} + \frac{\sqrt{(900-BD²)(BD² - 144)}}{4} = \frac{135*(\sqrt{3})}{2}

by solving we get positive value of BD = 24

Daniel Liu
Dec 17, 2013

Using Law of Cosines on Δ A C D \Delta ACD gives A D C = 12 0 \angle ADC=120^{\circ} ; therefore A B C D ABCD is cyclic. By Ptolemy's Theorem, 21 9 + 21 15 = 21 B D 21\cdot 9+21\cdot 15=21\cdot BD ; therefore B D = 24 BD=\boxed{24} .

Ruslan Abdulgani
May 20, 2014

Triangle ABC is equilateral triangle.Consider triangle ACD. Use cos rule to find angle ADC. Cos ADC = (9^2+15^2-21^2)/(2 9 15), then we find the angle ADC = 120 degrees.By using sin rule : 21/sin120 = 15/sin DAC. Then the angle BAD = 60 + DAC, and BD ^2 = 21^2+9^2 - 2(9)(21) cos BAD = 21^2+9^2 + 54 = 576. So BD = 24.

Fred Lauwers
May 20, 2014

In isosceles triangle ABC: angle(BAC) = angle(BCA) = 60, so AC = 21. The cosine rule in triangle ACD gives angle(A2) = 38,213 degrees. Angle(A) in triangle ABD is 98,213 degrees. The cosine rule in triangle ABD gives BD = 24.

Pebrudal Zanu
Dec 17, 2013

A C = 21 AC=21

Cosine law give: A D C = arccos ( ( C D 2 + A D 2 A C 2 ) 2 × C D × A D ) = arccos ( 1 2 ) \angle ADC=\arccos \left( \frac{(CD^2+AD^2-AC^2)}{2 \times CD \times AD} \right)=\arccos \left(-\frac{1}{2} \right)

So, A D C = 12 0 \angle ADC=120^{\circ}

A B C + A D C = 18 0 \angle ABC+ \angle ADC =180^{\circ}

So, A B C D ABCD is cyclic.

By ptolemy theorem

B C × A D + A B × C D = A C × B D BC \times AD+ AB \times CD = AC \times BD

then

B D = A D + C D = 9 + 15 = 24 BD=AD+CD=9+15=\fbox{24}

Saurabh Dabral
Dec 20, 2013

easy just apply ptolemy's theorm which states sum of product of lengths of opposite sides of a cyclic quadrilateral is equal to the product of the lengths of the diagonals of that quadrilateral.

Rahul Saha
Dec 18, 2013

We join A and C.Since AB=BC,

B A C = B C A \angle BAC=\angle BCA

But given, A B C = 60 \angle ABC=60 .So B A C = B C A = 60 \angle BAC=\angle BCA=60 .So Δ A B C \Delta ABC is an equilateral triangle.This implies that AC=21.Using the law of cosines in triangle ACD,we get

c o s ( D ) = . 5 D = 120 cos(D)=-.5\implies \angle D=120

A D C + A B C = 180 \angle ADC+\angle ABC=180

From this,we can conclude that quadrilateral ABCD is cyclic.We know by Ptolemy's theorem that

A C B D = A B C D + A D B C AC\cdot BD=AB\cdot CD+AD\cdot BC

Substituting values give us B D = 24 BD=24 .

Vinjai Vale
Dec 17, 2013

If we draw in A C AC , we see that A B C \triangle ABC is equilateral. Note that C D A \triangle CDA is a 3-5-7 triangle; thus, A D C = 12 0 \angle ADC = 120^\circ . Since A B C + A D C = 180 \angle ABC + \angle ADC = 180 , we see that A B C D ABCD is cyclic. Thus, by Ptolemy's Theorem, B D 21 = B D A C = A B C D + B C D A = 24 21 BD \cdot 21 = BD \cdot AC = AB \cdot CD + BC \cdot DA = 24 \cdot 21 , so B D = 24 BD = \boxed{24} .

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