Kathleen's triangles

Geometry Level 4

In rectangle A B C D ABCD , A B = 6 AB=6 and B C = 8 BC= 8 . Point C C is reflected across diagonal B D BD to obtain C C' , and line B C BC' intersects A D AD at P P . If the ratio of the area of triangle B A P \triangle BAP to the area of triangle B P D \triangle BPD is a b \frac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime positive integers, what is the value of a + b a+b ?

This problem is posed by Kathleen K .


The answer is 32.

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4 solutions

Andrew Edwards
Aug 11, 2013

I present a solution to this problem using the Cartesian plane. Let the rectangle A B C D ABCD be situated in the following manner: A = ( 0 , 6 ) B = ( 0 , 0 ) C = ( 8 , 0 ) D = ( 8 , 6 ) \begin{aligned} A &= (0,-6) \\ B&= (0,0) \\ C&= (8,0) \\ D&=(8,-6)\end{aligned} First we locate the coordinates of the reflection of the point C C across the diagonal B D BD . By construction, the diagonal lies on the line y = 3 4 x y = -\frac{3}{4}x . Given ( x , y ) (x,y) and a line y = a x + c y = ax + c , the point ( x , y ) (x', y') reflected across said line is given by x = 2 d x y = 2 d a y + 2 c \begin{aligned} x' &= 2d - x \\ y' &= 2da - y + 2c \end{aligned} where d = x + a ( y c ) 1 + a 2 d= \frac{x + a(y - c)}{1 + a^2} . For a complete explanation of this formula, see this stackoverflow post . Thus the coordinates of the reflection C C' are 1 25 ( 56 , 192 ) \frac{1}{25}(56,192) . Next we locate the point P P by solving 6 = 24 7 x -6 = -\frac{24}{7}x which gives us P = ( 7 4 , 6 ) P = (\frac{7}{4}, -6) (recall that the line y = 6 y=-6 is the bottom of the rectangle).

The area of triangle B A P = 1 2 × 7 4 × 6 = 21 4 BAP = \frac{1}{2}\times\frac{7}{4}\times6 = \frac{21}{4} . The area of the triangle B A D = 24 BAD = 24 , hence the area of the triangle B P D = 24 21 4 = 75 4 BPD = 24 - \frac{21}{4} = \frac{75}{4} . Therefore, the ratio of the area of triangle B A P BAP to the area of triangle B P D BPD is

21 75 = 7 25 \frac{21}{75} = \frac{7}{25}

and their sum is 32 \boxed{32} .

Moderator note:

What would the general answer be?

There are several properties which can greatly simplify the calculations that you have to do.

I like Chris' approach. I found the following solution, based on some inherent properties:

  1. Consider the circle with diameter B D BD . This shows that A , B , C , D , C A,B,C,D, C' are concyclic points.

  2. Since A B = C D AB = C'D , and angles subtended by arc of same length are equal, thus B P D BPD is an isosceles triangle.

  3. Let A D B = α \angle ADB = \alpha , then B P A = 2 α \angle BPA = 2 \alpha .

  4. A P P D = A P P B = cos ( 2 α ) = 2 cos 2 α 1 = a 2 b 2 a 2 + b 2 \frac{AP}{PD} = \frac{ AP } { PB} = \cos (2\alpha) = 2 \cos^2 \alpha - 1 = \frac{a^2-b^2}{a^2+b^2} .

In rectangle A B C D \text ABCD , by the Pythagorean theorem, B C = B C 2 + C D 2 = 10 \text BC = \sqrt {BC^2 + CD^2} = 10 . Since C \text C is reflected across diagonal B D \text BD , C B D \angle CBD is also reflected across diagonal B D \text BD , making C B D = P B D = θ \angle CBD = \angle PBD\ = \theta .

sin θ = C D B D = 3 5 \sin \theta = \dfrac {CD}{BD} = \dfrac {3}{5}

sin A B P = sin ( 90 2 θ ) = 1 2 sin 2 θ = 7 25 \sin \angle ABP = \sin (90-2\theta) = 1-2\sin^2 \theta\ = \dfrac {7}{25}

The area of B A P = 1 2 ( A B ) ( B P ) sin A B P = 21 25 ( B P ) \triangle BAP = \dfrac {1}{2}(AB)(BP)\sin\angle ABP = \dfrac {21}{25}(BP) .

The area of B P D = 1 2 ( B P ) ( B D ) sin θ = 3 ( B P ) \triangle BPD = \dfrac {1}{2}(BP)(BD)\sin\theta\ = 3(BP) .

A r e a o f B A P A r e a o f B P D = 21 25 ( B P ) 3 ( B P ) = 7 25 \dfrac {Area of \triangle BAP}{Area of \triangle BPD} = \dfrac {\dfrac{21}{25}(BP)}{3(BP)} = \dfrac {7}{25} .

Hence a + b = 7 + 25 = 32 \text a+b=7+25=32 .

I tried to generalize this by replacing the lengths of B C \text BC and C D \text CD by a \text a and b \text b , respectively. By doing the same steps above, the ratio of B A P \triangle BAP to B P D \triangle BPD is a 2 b 2 a 2 + b 2 \dfrac {a^2-b^2}{a^2+b^2} .

Chris Catacata - 7 years, 10 months ago

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Very nice. One typo on the first line: BC should be BD (the hypotenuse).

Andrew Edwards - 7 years, 10 months ago

I coordinate bashed too. Now I'm going to review the pure Euclidean approaches.

Tanishq Aggarwal - 7 years, 9 months ago

Yes, now I see. This computation is much easier if you instead focus on finding the area of the smaller triangle B A P BAP . From the get go we have two pieces of information: a side length ( 6 6 ) and an angle size ( π / 2 ) \pi/2) . We can compute the angle opposite side A P AP by noting that it is equal to π / 2 2 D B C = π / 2 2 arctan ( 6 / 8 ) \pi/2 - 2\angle DBC = \pi/2 - 2\arctan{(6/8)} Hence the side length of A P AP is 6 tan ( π / 2 2 arctan ( 6 / 8 ) ) = 7 / 4 6\tan{(\pi/2 - 2\arctan{(6/8)})} = 7/4 The rest of the solution is identical to my last paragraph.

Andrew Edwards - 7 years, 10 months ago

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I just worked out a more general form of the solution. Suppose the rectangle has side lengths a a and b b , instead of 6 6 and 8 8 ( respectively ). Then the length of A P AP ( constructed exactly as above ) is a tan ( π / 2 2 arctan ( a / b ) ) = a sin ( π / 2 2 arctan ( a / b ) ) cos ( π / 2 2 arctan ( a / b ) ) = a cos ( 2 arctan ( a / b ) ) sin ( 2 arctan ( a / b ) ) = a cot ( 2 arctan ( a / b ) ) = a b 2 a 2 2 a b = b 2 a 2 2 b \begin{aligned} a\tan(\pi/2 - 2\arctan(a/b)) &= a\dfrac{\sin(\pi/2 - 2\arctan(a/b))}{\cos(\pi/2 - 2\arctan(a/b))}\\ &= a\dfrac{\cos(2\arctan(a/b))}{\sin(2\arctan(a/b))}\\ &= a\cot(2\arctan(a/b))\\ &= a\dfrac{b^2 - a^2}{2ab}\\ &= \dfrac{b^2 - a^2}{2b} \end{aligned} I know there is an intuitive, geometric explanation of this clean formula but I am still working on it.

Andrew Edwards - 7 years, 10 months ago

Although I personally got the sum using a method similar to Chris', I have to say that I really like your solution. Very clever!

Could you direct me to a proof of the formula for d d you used there? I can't find it in the link you posted.

Ivan Sekovanić - 7 years, 10 months ago

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MathWorld is probably a better reference. I linked to SE because that is where I found the solution, and I was convinced by the explanation by Carlos Scheidegger. However the on SE is just a special case of the derivation from MathWorld.

Andrew Edwards - 7 years, 10 months ago

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Excellent. Thanks a lot :)

Ivan Sekovanić - 7 years, 9 months ago
Soumava Pal
Feb 2, 2016

Use of trigonometry kills the problem. Let AB=a, BC=b. Let b>a. angle PAB= angle ABD - angle DBC take tan of the angles on both sides, PA/a=(b/a-a/b)/(1+(a/b*b/a))

PA/a=(b^2-a^2)/2ab

PA=(b^2-a^2)/2b

PD=AD-PA=b-(b^2-a^2)/2b=(a^2+b^2)/2b

Required ratio of areas is PA/PD=(b^2-a^2)/(b^2+a^2)

Mark Gil Mangao
Aug 15, 2013

Plot points A ( 0 , 6 ) , B ( 0 , 0 ) , C ( 8 , 0 ) A(0,6) , B(0,0), C(8,0) and D ( 8 , 6 ) D(8,6) on the Cartesian plane so that we have rectangle A B C D ABCD where A B = 6 AB=6 and B C = 8 BC=8 . The line that passes through B B and D D has the equation y = ( 3 / 4 ) x y=(3/4)x and so if C C' is a point obtained by reflecting C C across B D BD , the line that passes through C C and C C' is perpendicular to y = ( 3 / 4 ) x y=(3/4)x . Thus, this has the equation, y = ( 4 / 3 ) x + 32 / 3 y=(-4/3)x + 32/3 because it has slope that is negative reciprocal of the slope of the first line we have. Also, we can get the distance between point C C and the line y = 3 x / 4 y=3x/4 using the formula, D = ( A x + B y + C ) / ( A 2 + B 2 ) D=|(Ax+By+C)/(A^2+B^2)| which gives D = 3.84 D=3.84 . This is also the distance between C C' and y = 3 x / 4 y=3x/4 . Therefore, the line that passes through C C' that is parallel to y = 3 x / 4 y=3x/4 has the equation y = 3 x / 4 + 6 y=3x/4 + 6 . This is because we have that 3.84 = ( b b ) / ( A 2 + B 2 ) 3.84=|(b-b')/(A^2+B^2)| where b b and b b' are the y i n t e r c e p t s y-intercepts of the two parallel lines. This gives b = 6 b'=6 . So we have two lines which contains C C' . y = 4 x / 3 + 32 / 3 y=-4x/3+32/3 and y = 3 x / 4 + 6 y=3x/4+6 . Solving the system, we have that point C C' is at ( 2.24 , 7.68 ) (2.24,7.68) . The line through B B and C C' has the equation y = 7.68 x / 2.24 y=7.68x/2.24 . When y = 6 y=6 , x = 1.75 x=1.75 . Thus, we have A P = 1.75 AP=1.75 and P D = 6.25 PD=6.25 . The ratio A P / P D AP/PD gives 7 / 25 7/25 . Thus, the answer is 32 32 .

Kunal Singh
Aug 14, 2013

Draw a line parallel to A D AD through C C' . Extend B A BA and C D CD to intersect this line at F F and E E respectively . Therefore , A F = D E AF = DE . Let C C CC' intersect B D BD at O O . By Pythagoras theorem , B C 2 + C D 2 BC^2 + CD^2 = B D 2 BD^2

\Rightarrow B D 2 BD^2 = B C 2 + C D 2 \sqrt{BC^2 + CD^2}

\Rightarrow B D BD = 8 2 + 6 2 = 10 \sqrt{8^2 + 6^2} = 10 units . Let

B O BO = x , O D x , OD = 10 x 10 - x and O C OC = y y . Applying Pythagoras theorem for O B C \bigtriangleup{OBC} ,

O B 2 OB^2 + O C 2 OC^2 = B C 2 BC^2 \Rightarrow x 2 + y 2 = 64 x^2 + y^2 = 64 e q . ( 1 ) \rightarrow eq.(1) .

Similarly , for O C D \bigtriangleup{OCD} , O C 2 OC^2 + O D 2 OD^2 = C D 2 CD^2

\Rightarrow ( 10 x ) 2 + y 2 = 36 (10 - x)^2 + y^2 = 36 \Rightarrow x 2 20 x + 100 + y 2 = 36 x^2 - 20x + 100 + y^2 = 36 e q . ( 2 ) \rightarrow eq.(2) . Substituting e q . ( 1 ) eq.(1) in e q . ( 2 ) eq.(2) and solving we get , x = 32 5 = 6.4 x = \frac{32}{5} = 6.4 units . Substituting this in e q . ( 1 ) eq.(1) ,we get y = 24 5 = 4.8 y = \frac{24}{5} = 4.8 units . Hence , O C OC = 4.8 4.8 units and as O C OC' is the reflection of O C OC in B D BD , C C = 2 O C = 9.6 CC' = 2OC = 9.6 units . Let θ \theta be O C D \langle{OCD}\rangle . For O C D \bigtriangleup{OCD} , sin θ \sin\theta = 3.6 6 \frac{3.6}{6} . Also , for C C E \bigtriangleup{CC'E} , sin θ \sin\theta = C E C C \frac{C'E}{CC'} . Thus , C E C C = 3.6 6 C E = 5.76 \frac{C'E}{CC'} = \frac{3.6}{6} \Rightarrow C'E = 5.76 units . Therefore , F C = 8 5.76 = 2.24 FC' = 8 - 5.76 = 2.24 units . As O C = O C , B O C = B O C OC = OC' , \langle{BOC}\rangle = \langle{BOC'}\rangle and O B OB is common , hence B O C B O C \bigtriangleup{BOC} \cong \bigtriangleup{BOC'} . Therefore , B C = B C = 8 BC = BC' = 8 units . Let A F AF = z z . Applying Pythagoras theorem for B F C \bigtriangleup{BFC'} , B F 2 + F C 2 = B C 2 ( 6 + z ) 2 + ( 2.24 ) 2 = 64 BF^2 + FC'^2 = BC^2 \Rightarrow (6 + z)^2 + (2.24)^2 = 64

6 + z = 7.68 z = 1.68 \Rightarrow 6 + z = 7.68 \Rightarrow z = 1.68 units . As B A P B F C \bigtriangleup{BAP} \sim \bigtriangleup{BFC'} , thus , A P F C = B A B F A P 2.24 = 6 7.68 A P = 1.75 \frac{AP}{FC'} = \frac{BA}{BF} \Rightarrow \frac{AP}{2.24} = \frac{6}{7.68} \Rightarrow AP = 1.75 units . Thus , P D = 8 1.75 = 6.25 PD = 8 - 1.75 = 6.25 units . Thus , B A P B P D = 1 2 × 1.75 × 6 1 2 × 6.25 × 6 = 7 25 = a b \frac{\bigtriangleup{BAP}}{\bigtriangleup{BPD}} = \frac{\frac{1}{2} \times 1.75 \times 6}{\frac{1}{2} \times 6.25 \times 6} = \frac{7}{25} = \frac{a}{b} . Hence , a + b = 32 a + b = 32

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