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A C D E ACDE and B G F C BGFC are both squares and B C A = 9 0 . \angle BCA = 90^{\circ}.

How do the blue and red areas compare?

Blue area is greater than red area Red area is greater than blue area The areas are equal Not enough information to determine

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Pedro Cardoso
Mar 18, 2018

We're want to compare b l u e \color{#3D99F6} blue and r e d \color{#D61F06} red , however, it is easier to compare b l u e \color{#3D99F6} blue + + g r e e n \color{#20A900} green and r e d \color{#D61F06} red + + g r e e n \color{#20A900} green .

From similar triangles G B J \triangle GBJ and J A C \triangle JAC , we see B J J C = G B C A \frac{BJ}{JC}=\frac{GB}{CA}

And form similar triangles E A H \triangle EAH and H C B \triangle HCB , we see C H H A = B C A E = G B C A \frac{CH}{HA}=\frac{BC}{AE}=\frac{GB}{CA}

Now, we can see that A r e a ( A B H ) = H A C A A r e a ( A B C ) Area(ABH)=\frac{HA}{CA}*Area(ABC) and A r e a ( J A C ) = J C B C A r e a ( A B C ) Area(JAC)=\frac{JC}{BC}*Area(ABC)

But H A C A = J C B C \frac{HA}{CA}=\frac{JC}{BC} , so

A r e a ( A B H ) = A r e a ( J A C ) Area(ABH)=Area(JAC)

b l u e \color{#3D99F6} blue + + g r e e n \color{#20A900} green = = r e d \color{#D61F06} red + + g r e e n \color{#20A900} green

b l u e \color{#3D99F6} blue = = r e d \color{#D61F06} red

how do the similar triangles EAH and HCB show that's equal to GB/CA? they're not even part of either triangle.

Iskander Elderson - 3 years, 2 months ago

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because squares mean BC=GB and AE=CA

Komninos Maraslidis - 3 years, 2 months ago

Isn't it Area(JAC) = JC/BC * Area(ABC) instead? Same for HA/CA = JC/BC.

Kadleth Belmont - 3 years, 2 months ago

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I also think it should be JC/BC in both cases. However, I still don't follow how you get that HA/CA = JC/BC.

Dina Tsirelson - 3 years, 2 months ago

How did you get the area(ABH)?

Soham Abhishek - 3 years, 2 months ago

Why does area(ABC) needs to be divided by HA/CA?

Radhiyan Pribadi - 3 years, 1 month ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Mar 18, 2018

Call the sides of the squares a a and b b , respectively.

Use similar triangles G F A J C A \triangle GFA \sim \triangle JCA and E D B H C B \triangle EDB \sim \triangle HCB to conclude C H = C J = a b a + b = : x . CH = CJ = \frac{ab}{a+b} =: x. Now area J C A = 1 2 b x = 1 2 a b 2 a + b ; area B H A = 1 2 ( b x ) a = 1 2 a b 2 a + b . \text{area}\ \triangle JCA = \tfrac12 b x = \tfrac12 \frac{ab^2}{a+b}; \\ \text{area}\ \triangle BHA = \tfrac12 (b - x) a = \tfrac12 \frac{ab^2}{a+b}. Thus J C A \triangle JCA and B H A \triangle BHA have equal areas; subtract A H I \triangle AHI from both to conclude that red = blue \boxed{\text{red}\ =\ \text{blue}} .

I'm guessing that a is the side of the larger square and b the smaller one? If so the area of JCA should be b x/2 and in the numerator of both should be a b^2 not a^2*b.

Erik Shaw - 3 years, 2 months ago

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Thanks, it should be correct now.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 2 months ago

Could someone please explain to me why CJ= ab/(a+b).

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 2 months ago

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Triangles G F A \triangle GFA and J C A \triangle JCA are similar, since they obviously share angle A A and both have right angles ( F \angle F and C \angle C ). Similarity means that corresponding sides have equal ratios. Thus J C G F = A C A F ; J C a = b a + b . \frac{JC}{GF} = \frac{AC}{AF};\ \ \ \ \frac{JC}a = \frac b{a+b}. Solving this gives the equation for J C JC .

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 2 months ago

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Gotcha!!! Thanks!!!

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 2 months ago
Uros Stojkovic
Mar 4, 2018

[The question stated differently when I initially posted it. It said: " ...If area of blue region is 2018, what is the area of red region? " That's why I have 2018 in my calculations.]

First notice J C A C = B C A C + B C \dfrac{JC}{AC} = \dfrac{BC}{AC+BC} and C H B C = A C A C + B C \dfrac{CH}{BC} = \dfrac{AC}{AC+BC} , thus J C C H = B C A C A C + B C A C B C A C + B C = 1 \dfrac{JC}{CH} = \dfrac{\frac{BC \cdot AC}{AC + BC}}{\frac{AC \cdot BC}{AC+BC}}= 1 . So, we have J C = C H JC = CH .

If we denote P P as our wanted pink area, we have:

P = Δ A B C Δ B J A Δ A B H + Δ A B I = A C B C 2 A C B J 2 B C A H 2 + 2018 = A C B C A C ( B C J C ) B C ( A C C H ) 2 + 2018 = A C J C + B C C H A C B C 2 + 2018 J C = C H = J C ( A C + B C ) A C B C 2 + 2018 J C = A C B C A C + B C = A C B C A C + B C ( A C + B C ) A C B C 2 + 2018 = 2018. \begin{aligned} P & = \Delta ABC - \Delta BJA - \Delta ABH + {\color{#3D99F6} \Delta ABI} \\\\ &= \frac{AC \cdot BC}{2} - \frac{AC \cdot BJ}{2} - \frac{BC \cdot AH}{2} + {\color{#3D99F6} 2018} \\\\ &= \frac{AC \cdot BC - AC \cdot (BC - JC) - BC \cdot (AC - CH)}{2} + 2018 \\\\ &= \frac{AC \cdot JC + BC \cdot CH - AC \cdot BC}{2} +2018 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ {\color{#E81990} ~~JC = CH} \\\\ &= \frac{JC \cdot(AC + BC)- AC \cdot BC}{2} + 2018 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ {\color{#E81990} ~~JC = \dfrac{AC \cdot BC}{AC + BC}} \\\\ &= \frac{\frac{AC \cdot BC}{AC + BC} \cdot(AC + BC)- AC \cdot BC}{2} + 2018 = 2018. \end{aligned}

where is the 2018??

Kelvin Hong - 3 years, 2 months ago

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The question stated differently when I initially posted it. It said: "If area of blue region is 2018, what is the area of red region?" That's why I have 2018 in my calculations.

Uros Stojkovic - 3 years, 2 months ago

Ok, so the ratio of the areas of the blu and red triangle is 1:1 , but what is the ratio of the areas of the two remaining white triangles ?

Bonus question: show that the ratio of the areas of the two white triangles BIJ and AIH equals the ratio of the cubes of the sides of the two squares.

Theo-wpm Hermsen - 3 years, 2 months ago
Ajit Athle
Mar 8, 2018

Let CA = a and CF=b. Then C H D E \frac{CH}{DE} = B C B D \frac{BC}{BD} or CH = a b a + b \frac{ab}{a+b} and area of triangle BCH = a b ² 2 ( a + b ) \frac{ab²}{2(a+b)} . Likewise, JC= a b a + b \frac{ab}{a+b} and area of triangle BJA=(a/2)[b- a b ( a + b ) \frac{ab}{(a+b)} ] = a b ² 2 ( a + b ) \frac{ab²}{2(a+b)} or Area Tr. BCH = Area Tr. BJA or Area Tr. BCH - Area Tr. BJI = Area Tr. BJA - Area Tr. BJI or The Pink Region = The Blue Region no matter what the values a & b are.

Antonie Huang
Mar 20, 2018

Because I say so.

Michael Perrone
Mar 24, 2018

Consider the case when both squares are the same size. By symmetry, B J = C J BJ = CJ and therefore area A C J = \triangle ACJ = area A B J \triangle ABJ . Also by symmetry, area B J I = \triangle BJI = area A H I \triangle AHI . Therefore the red and blue regions have the same area.

Scaling A C AC or B C BC yields the asymmetric case. But any length scaling leaves the area ratio of the red and blue regions unchanged.

Therefore, the red and blue regions are always equal.

Caleb Barnett
Mar 21, 2018

Guess an answer. Like me, you may be right.

I never guess - it is a shocking habit destructive of the logical faculty. However I admit that on this occasion my method of arriving at the correct answer was not the most rigorous!

Thomas Sutcliffe - 3 years, 2 months ago

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