Koch Snowflake - Part 1

Calculus Level 2

The Koch snowflake is a mathematical curve which starts with a unit equilateral triangle, and then recursively adds an equilateral triangle to the middle third of each line segment. This process continues infinitely. The above is an animation of the first 7 steps.

Which of the following statements is true of the Koch Snowflake?

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If you like Koch Snowflake, you can try Part 2 .

It has infinite area and infinite perimeter. It has finite area and infinite perimeter. It has infinite area and finite perimeter. It has finite area and finite perimeter.

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6 solutions

Mohammad Zayd
Feb 24, 2014

While this a question related to common sense ; still I have a Theoretical Explanation ( by the help of a for loop used in C++ ) :

( 1 ) The Area : In a Triangle,the recursive progress of area :

for( i = 1; i > length ; i++ ) {

Side = side1 + side2 +side3; Recursive = Side/3;

Recursive1 = Recursive - side1; Recursive2 = Recursive - side2; Recursive3 = Recursive - side3;

RFinal = Recursive1 * Recursive2 * Recursive3; RArea = Rfinal*Recursive ;

Area = sqrt(RArea) ;

cout << Area; }

This code will return a finite value.

(ii)Perimeter :

as the perimeter increases infinitely, let l,m,n be the sides of the triangle.

for( i = 1; i > l ; i++) { for( i = 1; i > m ; i++) { for( i = 1; i > n ; i++) { cout<<l + m + n; } } }

This loop will run Infinitely.

Therefore the answer is : a Triangle will have finite area and infinite perimeter for Koch Snowflake curve.

I did it by instint

Hao Tian Lee - 7 years, 3 months ago

I can draw;say,an ellipse such that the koch lies completely in it...so finite area..and since I'm adding triangles ..infinite perimeter.

Sriram Chandra - 7 years, 3 months ago

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If it has a finite area then the shape of the figure remains fixed...so it also must have finite perimeter...

Amlan Mishra - 7 years, 3 months ago

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How does the area being constant imply the shape of the figure it fixed?

Daniel Liu - 7 years, 3 months ago

I didn't get what you meant by "fixed shape"...can you elaborate?

Sriram Chandra - 7 years, 3 months ago

Awesome

Rohan Majumdar - 7 years, 3 months ago

why you have taken side 1 side 2 side 3 different please explain recursive relation

dp dp - 7 years, 3 months ago

it has finite area and infinite perimeter because as perimeter can enlarge upto many extents

Yogesh Trivedi - 7 years, 3 months ago
Ashwin Shridhar
Feb 25, 2014

The Snowflake has a finite area because every time it grows , it always encloses a finite area. But as it grows indefinitely its perimeter grows continuously hence has an infinite perimeter.

Ivan Koswara
Mar 1, 2014

Call the side length, number of sides, area, and perimeter of the fractal to be l i , n i , a i , p i l_i, n_i, a_i, p_i at time step i i , letting l 1 = 1 l_1 = 1 . Also let a = 3 4 a = \dfrac{\sqrt{3}}{4} , the area of a single unit triangle, so a 1 = a a_1 = a . Note that p i = l i n i p_i = l_in_i , and trivially n 1 = 3 n_1 = 3 .

Every time step, the side length is divided by 3 3 , and the number of sides is multiplied by 4 4 . Thus l i + 1 = l i 3 l_{i+1} = \dfrac{l_i}{3} and n i + 1 = 4 n i n_{i+1} = 4n_i , so p i + 1 = l i + 1 n i + 1 = l i 3 4 n i = 4 3 l i n i = 4 3 p i p_{i+1} = l_{i+1}n_{i+1} = \dfrac{l_i}{3} \cdot 4n_i = \frac{4}{3} l_in_i = \frac{4}{3} p_i . Thus p i p_i is a geometric sequence with ratio greater than 1 1 , and thus it diverges to infinity: it has infinite perimeter .

Recall l i + 1 = l i 3 l_{i+1} = \dfrac{l_i}{3} and n i + 1 = 4 n i n_{i+1} = 4n_i . Together with l 1 = 1 , n 1 = 3 l_1 = 1, n_1 = 3 , we have l i = 1 3 i 1 l_i = \dfrac{1}{3^{i-1}} and n i = 3 4 i 1 n_i = 3 \cdot 4^{i-1} .

Also, on time step i i to i + 1 i+1 , we add n i n_i tiny triangles of side length l i + 1 l_{i+1} . Call the area added on time step i i to be b i b_i ; thus a i = j = 1 i b i a_i = \sum_{j=1}^i b_i . Thus b i b_i is:

n i l i + 1 2 3 4 n_i \cdot \dfrac{l_{i+1}^2 \sqrt{3}}{4}

= n i l i + 1 2 a = n_i l_{i+1}^2 a

= 3 4 i 1 ( 1 3 i ) 2 a = 3 \cdot 4^{i-1} \cdot \left( \dfrac{1}{3^i} \right)^2 a

= 4 i 1 3 2 i 1 a = \dfrac{4^{i-1}}{3^{2i-1}} a

= 3 4 a ( 4 9 ) i = \frac{3}{4} a \cdot \left( \frac{4}{9} \right)^i

and so by induction b i + 1 = 4 9 b i b_{i+1} = \frac{4}{9} b_i for i 2 i \ge 2 . Thus b i b_i is a geometric sequence with ratio between 0 0 and 1 1 . As the series b i b_i converges, and a i a_i is just the partial sums b i b_i , we must have a a_\infty to be finite, or finite area .


Also, just in case you don't want to get your hands dirty, just head to Wikipedia and get the answer.

Cancerd'ss Kaks
Apr 16, 2014

For an area, just draw a square surrounded the snowflake and you'll know the truth.

Harshal Sheth
Feb 25, 2014

If you put a box around the snowflake, you could enclose the snowflake for all steps. But, there are an infinite number of tiny triangles on the snowflake, making for an infinite perimeter.

But how can enclosing the flake in a box make sure that its area is not changing recursively?

Kou$htav Chakrabarty - 7 years, 3 months ago

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The area can only get so big. It would always stay inside the box.

Harshal Sheth - 7 years, 3 months ago
Aritri Chatterjee
Feb 23, 2014

isnt it obvious , for any polygon for that instance that recursively progresses will have finite area and infinite perimeter .

Take a square, at each step add 1 to the sides. It recursively progresses and have infinite area and perimeter.

Luca Bernardelli - 7 years, 3 months ago

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