KVPY 2015

Algebra Level 4

x 2 + y = y 2 + x = 12 x^2 + y = y^2+x=12

Find the number of ordered pairs of real solutions ( x , y ) (x,y) such that the equation above is fulfilled.

7 4 1 2 0 Infinitely many solution

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3 solutions

Krutarth Patel
Nov 3, 2015

Subtracting x 2 + y = 12 x^{2} + y = 12 from y 2 + x = 12 y^{2} + x = 12 gives ( y x ) ( y + x 1 ) = 0 (y - x)(y + x - 1) = 0 , implying either y = x y = x or y + x = 1 y + x = 1 .

  1. Substituting y = x y = x in x 2 + y = 12 x^{2} + y = 12 , we get x 2 + x 12 = 0 x^2 + x - 12 = 0 , x = 3 , 4 x = 3, -4 . Hence ( 3 , 3 ) (3, 3) and ( 4 , 4 ) (-4, -4) are solutions.

  2. Substituting y = 1 x y = 1 - x in x 2 + y = 12 x^{2} + y = 12 , we get x 2 x 11 = 0 x^2 - x - 11 = 0 , x = ( 1 + 3 5 ) / 2 x = (1 + 3\sqrt{5}) / 2 , ( 1 3 5 ) / 2 (1 - 3\sqrt{5}) / 2 . Substituting x = ( 1 + 3 5 ) / 2 x = (1 + 3\sqrt{5}) / 2 in y = 1 x y = 1 - x gives y = ( 1 3 5 ) / 2 y = (1 - 3\sqrt{5}) / 2 . Substituting x = ( 1 3 5 ) / 2 x = (1 - 3\sqrt{5}) / 2 in y = 1 x y = 1 - x gives y = ( 1 + 3 5 ) / 2 y = (1 + 3\sqrt{5}) / 2 . Hence ( ( 1 + 3 5 ) / 2 , ( 1 3 5 ) / 2 ) ((1 + 3\sqrt{5}) / 2, (1 - 3\sqrt{5}) / 2) and ( ( 1 3 5 ) / 2 , ( 1 + 3 5 ) / 2 ) ((1 - 3\sqrt{5}) / 2, (1 + 3\sqrt{5}) / 2) also satisfy the equations.

This gives us a total of 4 4 ordered pairs that satisfy the equations.

Moderator note:

Great solution! With symmetric equations, trying to justify x = y x = y can often be obtained by taking the difference. This also shows us other conditions that need to be satisfied, in this case y + x 1 = 0 y+x - 1 = 0 .

Exactly Same Way

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 7 months ago

Wish I could solve this way

Akash Papnai - 5 years, 7 months ago

The perfect sol

Naman Kapoor - 5 years, 7 months ago
Satvik Choudhary
Nov 3, 2015

Drawing the graph clearly shows 4 intersection points The graph The graph

would you use this thing in kvpy?

Akash singh - 5 years, 7 months ago

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The graph is pretty easy to draw so i did it using a graph. Using a graphing calculator just makes it clearer.

shaurya gupta - 5 years, 7 months ago

I thought integers only. Didn't see carefully.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 7 months ago

Same pinch dude..

Satyam Tripathi - 4 years, 7 months ago
Ashish Sacheti
Nov 14, 2015

I don't know if this is right but this is what I did.

  1. It's easy to see that x+y=1 That's fine by subtracting y^2 to one side and subtracting y to the other. That gives x+y=1

  2. I added both equations giving x^2+y^2+x+y=24 and then I substituted x+y=1 to get x^2+y^2=23

  3. I set y=1-x an substituted that into this equation x^2+y^2. After simplifying u get x^2-x-11=0 that tieless two solutions for x. Multiply that by two because same thing would happen if u solved for y instead of x yielding 4 real solutions.

Please tell me if this is a mathematically correct method. Thanks!!!

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