Minimizing An Outlandish Expression

Algebra Level 2

x ln x + y ln y + z ln z \large x \ln x + y \ln y + z \ln z

Let x , y x,y and z z be positive numbers satisfying x + y + z = 3 e x+y + z= 3e .

Find the minimum value of the expression above.

Clarification : e 2.71828 e \approx 2.71828 denotes the Euler's number .


Dedicated to Sharky Kesa .
e e 2 e 2e 3 e 3e 4 e 4e

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Relevant wiki: Jensen's Inequality

Well let me answer in a different way than the title expects me to,

Consider g ( x ) = x ln x \displaystyle g(x)=x\ln x and since x > 0 x>0 we have g ( x ) > 0 g''(x)>0 so g g is convex and by Jensen's inequality,

g ( x ) + g ( y ) + g ( z ) 3 g ( x + y + z 3 ) \displaystyle g(x)+g(y)+g(z)\ge 3g(\frac{x+y+z}{3}) which implies f ( x , y , z ) = x ln x + y ln y + z ln z 3 e \displaystyle f(x,y,z) = x \ln x + y \ln y + z \ln z \ge 3e with equality occuring at x = y = z = e x=y=z=e .

Alternative approach is more interesting since we need to prove a minimum exists and investigate whether a global or local minima it is.

Fantastic, thank you very much!(+1)... I'm going to write one generalised x + y + z = 3 a x + y + z = 3a with a > 0 a > 0 solution with Lagrange multipliers and hessian matrix for Sharky Khesa, he is interested with this... Tomorrow , there will be another and one last problem with Lagrange multipliers and later the problems is going to increase difficulty. I think, later of 3 or 4 problems, "nobody" (perhaps 1 out of 1000 people on Brilliant) is going to be able to solve one only problem, the proofs aren't really difficult, they can be understood but the problems are going to be very, very hard....

Guillermo Templado - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Oh i am curious to have those problems ! . And the hessian ofcourse my favourite tool for this kind of problems. Perhaps you can mention the relevant wiki of hessian which I made some months ago ;).

Aditya Narayan Sharma - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Done... don't worry, tomorrow I'll write the solution,now I'm very tired and I'm busy.. Your web will be metioned, don't worry about this...

Guillermo Templado - 4 years, 8 months ago

Due to { ( x , y , z ) R 3 ; x > 0 , y > 0 , z > 0 } \{(x,y,z) \in \mathbb{R}^3; \space x >0, y >0 , z >0\} is an open set, a global minimum is a local minimum. We are going to use Lagrange multipliers and hessian matrix . Let L ( x , y , z ) = x ln ( x ) + y ln ( y ) + z ln ( z ) + λ ( x + y + z 3 a ) L(x,y,z) = x\ln(x) + y\ln(y) + z\ln(z) + \lambda (x + y + z - 3a) with a > 0 a > 0 constant. d d x L ( x , y , z ) = ln ( x ) + 1 + λ = 0 , \dfrac{d}{dx} L(x,y,z) = \ln(x) + 1 + \lambda = 0, d d y L ( x , y , z ) = ln ( y ) + 1 + λ = 0 , \dfrac{d}{dy} L(x,y,z) = \ln(y) + 1 + \lambda = 0, d d z L ( x , y , z ) = ln ( z ) + 1 + λ = 0 , \dfrac{d}{dz} L(x,y,z) = \ln(z) + 1 + \lambda = 0, Clearing λ \lambda we get x = y = z x = y = z . Because of, x + y + z = 3 a x + y + z = 3a we can infere that x = y = z = a x = y = z = a . To see that ( a , a , a ) (a,a,a) is a minimum for f f we'll use the hessian matrix d 2 L ( a , a , a ) = ( 1 a 0 0 0 1 a 0 0 0 1 a ) d^2 \space L(a,a,a) = \begin{pmatrix} \frac{1}{a} & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{1}{a} & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & \frac{1}{a} \end{pmatrix} which is a defined positive matrix, and therefore f f attains a global minimum at ( a , a , a ) (a,a,a) . In this case, we have a minimum at ( e , e , e ) (e,e,e) and the minimum is f ( e , e , e ) = 3 e ln ( e ) = 3 e f(e,e,e) = 3e\ln(e) = 3e .

Note.- d 2 L ( a , a , a ) = ( 1 a 0 0 0 1 a 0 0 0 1 a ) d^2 \space L(a,a,a) = \begin{pmatrix} \frac{1}{a} & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{1}{a} & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & \frac{1}{a} \end{pmatrix} is a defined positive matrix means d 2 L ( a , a , a ) ( h , h ) = ( h 1 , h 2 , h 3 ) ( 1 a 0 0 0 1 a 0 0 0 1 a ) ( h 1 h 2 h 3 ) = 1 a h 1 2 + 1 a h 2 2 + 1 a h 3 2 > 0 d^2 \space L(a,a,a) (h,h)= (h_1, h_2 , h_3) \cdot \begin{pmatrix} \frac{1}{a} & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{1}{a} & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & \frac{1}{a} \end{pmatrix} \cdot \left(\begin{array} {c c c} h_1 \\ h_2 \\ h_3 \end{array}\right) = \frac{1}{a} h_1^2 + \frac{1}{a} h_2^2 + \frac{1}{a} h_3^2 > 0 for all h = ( h 1 , h 2 , h 3 ) 0 h = (h_1, h_2 , h_3) \neq 0

Chew-Seong Cheong
Sep 22, 2016

Since x , y , z > 0 x, y, z >0 , we can apply AM-GM inequality as follows.

x ln x + y ln y + z ln z 3 x ln x y ln y z ln z 3 Equality occurs when x = y = z = e 3 e 8.15485 \begin{aligned} x \ln x + y \ln y + z \ln z & \ge 3 \sqrt[3]{ x \ln x \cdot y \ln y \cdot z \ln z } & \small \color{#3D99F6}{\text{Equality occurs when }x=y=z=e} \\ & \ge 3e \approx \boxed{8.15485} \end{aligned}

Not quite. Remember that AM-GM can only be applied if all of the terms are positive. In this case, if we were restricted to 1 < x 1 < x , then yes we will have x ln x > 0 x \ln x > 0 .

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 8 months ago

Thanks sir. Used the same approach.

ADAMS AYOADE - 4 years, 8 months ago

How did u evaluate x ln x*y ln y * z lnz ?

Kaustubh Miglani - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Note that at equality x = y = z = e x=y=z=e , then x ln x y ln y z ln z = ( x ln x ) 3 = ( e ln e ) 3 = e 3 x \ln x \cdot y \ln y \cdot z \ln z = (x \ln x)^3 = (e \color{#3D99F6}{\ln e})^3 = e^3 . Note that ln e = 1 \color{#3D99F6}{\ln e = 1} .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 8 months ago

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thank you very much

Kaustubh Miglani - 4 years, 8 months ago
Abhishek Sinha
Oct 29, 2016

Here is a simple elementary proof. We have, x ln e x + y ln e y + z ln e z ( a ) x ( e x 1 ) + y ( e y 1 ) + z ( e z 1 ) = ( b ) 0 , x \ln \frac{e}{x} + y\ln \frac{e}{y} + z \ln \frac{e}{z}\stackrel{(a)}{\leq} x (\frac{e}{x}-1) + y(\frac{e}{y}-1) + z (\frac{e}{z}-1)\stackrel{(b)}{=}0, where in (a) we have used the fact that ln ( x ) x 1 , x 0 \ln(x) \leq x-1, \forall x\geq 0 and in (b) we have used the constraint that x + y + z = 3 e x+y+z=3e . Rearranging the above, we have x ln ( x ) + y ln ( y ) + z ln ( z ) x + y + z = 3 e x \ln(x) + y \ln(y) + z \ln(z) \geq x+y+z=3e It is easy to see that the bound is achieved when x = y = z = e . x=y=z=e. \hspace{50pt} \blacksquare

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