Length of triangle madness!

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Let a , b , c a,b,c be the length of a triangle, such that a > b > c > 0 a>b>c>0 , b b is an integer and satisfy these equations:

  • a + c = 2 b a+c = 2b
  • a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 84 a^{2} + b^{2} + c^{2} = 84

If the value of a + b c a+b-c can be written as x + y z x+y\sqrt{z} for integers x , y , z x,y,z and z z is square-free, find the value of x 3 + y 3 + z 3 x^{3}+y^{3}+z^{3}


The answer is 160.

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2 solutions

We know that

c a = 1 2 ( ( c + a ) 2 ( c 2 + a 2 ) ) \displaystyle ca = \frac{1}{2}\left((c+a)^{2}-(c^{2}+a^{2})\right)

= 1 2 ( ( 2 b ) 2 ( 84 b 2 ) ) \displaystyle = \frac{1}{2}\left((2b)^{2}-(84-b^{2})\right)

= 1 2 ( 5 b 2 84 ) \displaystyle = \frac{1}{2}(5b^{2}-84)

Since c , a c,a is the root of the equation

x 2 ( c + a ) x + c a = 0 x^{2}-(c+a)x+ca = 0

x 2 ( 2 b ) x + 1 2 ( 5 b 2 84 ) = 0 \displaystyle x^{2}-(2b)x+\frac{1}{2}(5b^{2}-84) = 0 .

From a c a\neq c , we know that there are 2 different roots in this equation.

Δ = ( 2 b ) 2 4 ( 1 ) ( 5 b 2 84 ) > 0 \Delta = (2b)^{2} - 4(1)(5b^{2}-84) > 0

Solve the inequality we get b 2 < 28 b^{2} < 28 . (1)

But we know that c a > 0 ca > 0 .

1 2 ( 5 b 2 84 ) > 0 \frac{1}{2}(5b^{2}-84) > 0

Solve the inequality we get b 2 > 84 5 > 16 b^{2} > \displaystyle \frac{84}{5} > 16 . (2)

From (1),(2) we know that b b is an integer, that means b = 5 b = 5 .

We can "guess" that a = 5 + x a = 5 + \sqrt{x} and c = 5 x c = 5 - \sqrt{x} for some x x .

From c a = 1 2 ( 5 b 2 84 ) = 41 2 \displaystyle ca = \frac{1}{2}(5b^{2}-84) = \frac{41}{2} .

( 5 x ) ( 5 + x ) = 41 2 \displaystyle (5-\sqrt{x})(5+\sqrt{x}) = \frac{41}{2}

x 2 = 9 2 \displaystyle x^{2} = \frac{9}{2}

x = 3 2 \displaystyle x = \frac{3}{\sqrt{2}}

Therefore, ( a , b , c ) = ( 5 + 3 2 , 5 , 5 3 2 ) \boxed{(a,b,c) = \left(\displaystyle 5+\frac{3}{\sqrt{2}}, 5, 5 - \frac{3}{\sqrt{2}}\right)} . ~~~

We can also check that a , b , c a,b,c are the length of a triangle.

Substitute for your own, too lazy XD

Lam Nguyen
Jan 1, 2015

We denote a as b+x and c as b-x (b>x>0) Hence 3b^2 +2x^2=84 using b>x>0, solving the inequations for integer yields b = 5 and x = 3/ srt(2). a + b - c = b + 2x thus x y z = 5, 3 and 2 respectively

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