Limit with a Zing

Calculus Level 2

Let a a be a positive integer such that the following limit exists: lim x 1 ( 1 x 1 1 x a 2 x + 1 ) . \lim_{x\to 1} \left( \frac{1}{x-1} - \frac{1}{x^a-2x+1}\right). If the value of the limit is b , b, find a + b . a+b.


The answer is 6.

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10 solutions

John Ross
Apr 15, 2018

Getting a common denominator gives us x a 3 x + 2 x a + 1 x a 2 x 2 + 3 x 1 \frac{x^a-3x+2}{x^{a+1}-x^a-2x^2+3x-1} Using L'Hopital's rule gives us a x a 1 3 ( a + 1 ) x a a x a 1 4 x + 3 \frac{ax^{a-1}-3}{(a+1)x^a-ax^{a-1}-4x+3} We can see that this goes to infinity except when a = 3 a=3 in which case it is a 0/0 situation. Plugging in a = 3 a=3 and using L'Hoptal's rule again gives us 6 x 12 x 2 6 x 4 \frac{6x}{12x^2-6x-4} Therefore both a and the limit are 3.

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Supratim Santra - 3 years, 1 month ago

Can you explain why after the first time you applied L'Hospital's rule the limit goes to infinity?

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When x=1, the denominator is zero. This means that the limit is infinity unless the numerator also equals zero.

John Ross - 3 years ago

There's a limit with a=1... Which gives b=0 and then a+b=1... Since this solution was rejected, I've looked for an other solution...

Ph C - 2 years, 4 months ago

From the factorization:

x a 2 x + 1 = ( x 1 ) ( x a 1 + x a 2 + + x 1 ) , x^a-2x+1= (x-1)(x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+\cdots + x - 1),

we have

1 x 1 1 x a 2 x + 1 = x a 1 + x a 2 + + x 2 x a 2 x + 1 . \displaystyle\frac{1}{x-1} - \frac{1}{x^a-2x+1} = \frac{x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+\cdots+x-2}{x^a-2x+1}.

Since the limit of the above expression exists and lim x 1 ( x a 2 x + 1 ) = 0 \lim_{x\to 1} (x^a-2x+1) = 0 , it follows that lim x 1 ( x a 1 + x a 2 + + x 2 ) = 0 , \lim_{x\to 1} (x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+\cdots+x-2) = 0, that is ( a 1 ) 2 = 0 (a-1)-2 = 0 yielding a = 3. a=3. We verify that the limit indeed exists when a = 3 a=3 :

1 x 1 1 x 3 2 x + 1 = x 2 + x 2 ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x 1 ) = ( x 1 ) ( x + 2 ) ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x 1 ) = x + 2 x 2 + x 1 , x 1. \displaystyle \frac{1}{x-1} - \frac{1}{x^3-2x+1} = \frac{x^2+x-2}{(x-1)(x^2+x-1)} = \frac{(x-1)(x+2)}{(x-1)(x^2+x-1)} = \frac{x+2}{x^2+x-1}, \quad x\neq 1.

Hence lim x 1 ( 1 x 1 1 x 3 2 x + 1 ) = lim x 1 x + 2 x 2 + x 1 = 1 + 2 1 + 1 1 = 3. \displaystyle\lim_{x\to 1}\left(\frac{1}{x-1} - \frac{1}{x^3-2x+1}\right) =\lim_{x\to 1}\frac{x+2}{x^2+x-1} = \frac{1+2}{1+1-1} = 3.

We obtain a = 3 a = 3 and b = 3 b=3 . Therefore a + b = 3 + 3 = 6 a+b = 3+3 = \boxed{6} .

What about a=1? You‘d get the limit as x approaches 1 of 0 so b=0

Leonard Krokowski - 3 years, 1 month ago

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When a = 1 a =1 , the expression is 2 x 1 \dfrac{2}{x-1} which does not have the limit as x x approaches 1 1 .

Aram Tangboonduangjit - 3 years, 1 month ago

This solution seems too obvious to be taken into account... Don't know why !

Ph C - 2 years, 4 months ago

For some reason,this problem came up, despite the "hard" filter!

Rohith M.Athreya - 3 years, 1 month ago

Combining the fractions gives (x^a -3x+2)/((x-1)(x^a-2x+1). If a limit exists the top must clearly tend to zero, so we require that x^a=3x-2. Replacing x by 1+t gives (1+t)^a=1+3t, so a=ln(1+3t)/ln(1+t) = (3t - 4.5t^2 + ...)/(t - t^2/2 + ...), which tends to 3 as t tends to zero. Using this value of a, the expression boils down to (x+2)/(x^2+x-1), which equals 3 when x=1. 3+3=6.

柯翰 王
Apr 20, 2018

If b exists,it is easy to know (x^a-2x+1)/(x-1)=1 when lim(x→1),using L'Hopital's rule gives us a=3,then b=3

Devidas Kamlekar
Apr 17, 2018

By cross multiplication of two fractions.... Limit (x^a-3x+3)÷{(x-1)(x^a-2x+1)} X->1 Here when x->1 tha value of expression gives indeterminant form i.e. 0/0. So using L'hospital rule Limit (a x^(a-1) - 3)÷{(x-1)(a x ^(a-1) -2) +(x^a-2x+1) X->1

Here if a=3 in numerator gives factors (x-1)(x+1) And denominator has (x-1) factor ...if we cancelled out these factor from numerator and denominator gives expression

Limit (3(x+1)÷{(3x^2-2) +x^2+x-1)} X->1 On solving limit wo got 3 as ans

There fore for a=3 we got ans b=3 a+b=3+3=6

Noel Lo
Jun 21, 2018

First observe that ( x 1 ) (x-1) is a factor of the polynomial ( x a 2 x + 1 ) (x^a-2x+1) as seen upon substituting x = 1 x=1 into x a 2 x + 1 = 1 a 2 ( 1 ) + 1 = 1 2 + 1 = 0 x^a-2x+1= 1^a-2(1)+1=1-2+1=0 . Now we factorise ( x a 2 x + 1 ) (x^a-2x+1) as follows:

x a 2 x + 1 = x a x a 1 + x a 1 x a 2 + . . . + x 2 x x + 1 = ( x 1 ) ( x a 1 + x a 2 + . . . + x 2 + x 1 ) x^a-2x+1=x^a-x^{a-1}+x^{a-1}-x^{a-2}+...+x^2-x-x+1=(x-1)(x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+...+x^2+x-1)

Then lim x 1 ( 1 x 1 1 x a 2 x + 1 ) = lim x 1 ( 1 x 1 1 ( x 1 ) ( x a 1 + x a 2 + . . . + x 2 + x 1 ) ) \lim_{x \to 1} \left( \dfrac{1}{x-1}-\dfrac{1}{x^a-2x+1} \right)=\lim_{x \to 1} \left( \dfrac{1}{x-1}-\dfrac{1}{(x-1)(x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+...+x^2+x-1)} \right)

= lim x 1 ( ( x a 1 + x a 2 + . . . + x 2 + x 1 ) 1 ( x 1 ) ( x a 1 + x a 2 + . . . + x 2 + x 1 ) ) = lim x 1 ( x a 1 + x a 2 + . . . + x 2 + x 2 ( x 1 ) ( x a 1 + x a 2 + . . . + x 2 + x 1 ) ) =\lim_{x \to 1} \left(\dfrac{(x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+...+x^2+x-1)-1}{(x-1)(x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+...+x^2+x-1)}\right)=\lim_{x \to 1} \left(\dfrac{x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+...+x^2+x-2}{(x-1)(x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+...+x^2+x-1)}\right)

Now clearly the denominator tends to 0 0 as x x tends to 1 1 . For the limit to exist, the numerator must also tend to 0 0 . As x x tends to 1 1 , the numerator tends to lim x 1 ( x a 1 + x a 2 + . . . + x 2 + x 2 ) = ( a 1 ) 2 \lim_{x \to 1} (x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+...+x^2+x-2)=(a-1)-2 . Then:

( a 1 ) 2 = 0 (a-1)-2=0

a 1 = 2 a-1=2

a = 2 + 1 a=2+1

a = 3 a=3

Now b = lim x 1 ( x 2 + x 2 ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x 1 ) ) = lim x 1 ( ( x + 2 ) ( x 1 ) ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x 1 ) ) = lim x 1 ( x + 2 x 2 + x 1 ) = 1 + 2 1 + 1 1 = 3 b=\lim_{x \to 1} \left( \dfrac{x^2+x-2}{(x-1)(x^2+x-1)} \right)= \lim_{x \to 1} \left( \dfrac{(x+2)\cancel {(x-1)}}{\cancel{(x-1)}(x^2+x-1)} \right)=\lim_{x \to 1} \left( \dfrac{x+2}{x^2+x-1} \right)=\dfrac{1+2}{1+1-1}=3 which means a + b = 3 + 3 = 6 a+b=3+3=\boxed{6} .

Will Corlett
Apr 20, 2018

Suck your mom

Is this a solution?

Poh Seng Tan - 3 years ago
Gabriel Jones
Apr 19, 2018

Wolfram Alpha

Tried different values of a until a non infinite result.

Ofer Litv
Apr 18, 2018

wrote this python code:

def lim(x, a): return(1/(x-1) - 1/(x *a - 2 x +1))

x = [1.1, 1.01, 1.001, 1.0001, 1.00001, 1.000001] a = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

print("a\tx\tlim") print("==========================") for a now in a: for x now in x: print(a now, "\t", x now, "\t", lim(x now, a now))

In the output you can see that for a=3 the limit is 3. Obviously this is a proof for nothing, but I'm amazed every time again how easy it is to verify complicated things easily... :-)

note: the code might not be displayed well since it's not a code editor, but try to figure it out...

This is not proof.

Robert DeLisle - 3 years, 1 month ago

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True, I mentioned that in my answer

Ofer Litv - 3 years, 1 month ago
Petr Doležal
Apr 17, 2018

Using long division algorithm we can see that ( x a 2 x + 1 ) (x^a-2x+1) is always divisible by ( x 1 ) (x-1) resulting in

A = x a 1 + x a 2 + + x 1 = ( n = 1 a 1 x n ) 1 A=x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+\dots+x-1=\left(\sum_{n=1}^{a-1}{x^{n}} \right)-1

For the limit to have a solution we need to get rid of that bottom factor of ( x 1 ) (x-1) , so the hope is that after expanding the left fraction with A A

A ( x 1 ) A 1 ( x 1 ) A \frac{A}{(x-1)A}-\frac{1}{(x-1)A}

and adding these two fractions, now with a common denominator, together

A 1 ( x 1 ) A \frac{A-1}{(x-1)A}

the top will be divisible by x 1 x-1 .

Using the long division again: ( A 1 ) / ( x 1 ) = ( x a 1 + x a 2 + + x 2 ) / ( x 1 ) = x a 2 + 2 x a 3 + + ( a 2 ) x + ( a 1 ) + a 3 x 1 = n = 0 a 2 ( a 1 n ) x n + a 3 x 1 (A-1)/(x-1)=(x^{a-1}+x^{a-2}+\dots+x-2)/(x-1)=x^{a-2}+2x^{a-3}+\dots+(a-2)x+(a-1)+\frac{a-3}{x-1}=\sum_{n=0}^{a-2}(a-1-n)x^n + \frac{a-3}{x-1}

As we said the top must be divisible, so the reminder a 3 x 1 \frac{a-3}{x-1} must be zero, implying a=3.

Plugging it back we get a + b = 3 + lim x 1 ( ( x 1 ) ( x 2 ) ( a 1 ) ( x 3 + x 2 + x 1 ) ) = 3 + lim x 1 ( x + 2 x 2 + x 1 ) = 3 + 3 = 6 a+b=3+\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{(x-1)(x-2)}{(a-1)(x^3+x^2+x-1)}\right)=3+\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{x+2}{x^2+x-1}\right)=3+3=6

This sad fact about this problem is that this solution is easily brute-forceable, taking away the joy of solving it properly. However, if you want to give this to someone else, there is an easy fix: increasing the numerator of the right fraction by n n also increases a a by n n .

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