Let x , y , z be positive real numbers satisfying x , y , z > 1 . It is true that lo g y ( x z ) ⋅ lo g z ( x y ) ≥ k for some real number k . Find k accurate to 3 decimal places.
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k may possibly be an integer.
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In the last expression, just set x = 1 .
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wow why'd i not notice that.
Yep, I was being dumb ._.
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You almost trolled me. I kept on having to check my working just to make sure I was right.
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You could have noted that if x = 1 , then the entire expression collapses to 1 , and as x increases, so does the expression.
same here also
You mean "Make y and z as large as possible"
We want to find the minimum of lo g y ( x z ) ⋅ lo g z ( x y ) .
First, we expand the logs: lo g y ( x z ) ⋅ lo g z ( x y ) = ( lo g y x + lo g y z ) ( lo g z x + lo g z y )
Note that lo g y z = lo g z y 1 ; and the less variables we have, the better. So let's substitute: ( lo g y x + lo g y z ) ( lo g z x + lo g z y ) = ( lo g y x + lo g z y 1 ) ( lo g z x + lo g z y )
Note that we already have a lo g y x and a lo g z y ; all we need to do is have a lo g x z to perform a clever substitution. Fortunately, this is easy: ( lo g y x + lo g z y 1 ) ( lo g z x + lo g z y ) = ( lo g y x + lo g z y 1 ) ( lo g z y + lo g x z 1 )
Now we substitute a = lo g y x , b = lo g z y , and c = lo g x z . Note that this brings on the condition that a b c = 1 . Also, since x , y , z > 1 , we have a , b , c > 0 .
Thus, we want to find the minimum of ( a + b 1 ) ( b + c 1 )
Expanding: ( a + b 1 ) ( b + c 1 ) = a b + c a + b c 1 + 1
Using a b c = 1 : a b + c a + b c 1 + 1 = a + c 1 + c a + 1
Now it is obvious that the minimum of this can be achieved for a → 0 and c → ∞ . When this happens, the minimum is 1 , so our final answer is 1 . 0 0 0 . Note that this minimum cannot be achieved.
A possible equality case is ( a , b , c ) = ( 2 − n , 1 , 2 n ) as n → ∞
This corresponds to x 2 n = y = z . We arbitrarily let x = 2 , so a possible equality case for x , y , z is ( x , y , z ) = ( 2 , 2 2 n , 2 2 n ) as n → ∞ .
In fact, any setup where x ≪ y ≤ z works. (WLOG y ≤ z )
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We expand lo g y ( x z ) ⋅ lo g z ( x y ) to get ( lo g y x + lo g y z ) ( lo g z x + lo g z y ) . We expand to get lo g y x ⋅ lo g z x + lo g y z ⋅ lo g z x + lo g z y ⋅ lo g y x + lo g y z ⋅ lo g z y which becomes ( lo g y x ) ( lo g z x ) + ( lo g y x ) + ( lo g z x ) + 1 which factors as ( lo g y x + 1 ) ( lo g z x + 1 ) Make y and x as large as possible and the logs approach 0. Thus our minimal value is 1.